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Posted: March 25, 2012
Sandbagging Maybe I'll start adding them in once a month.

This is what I'm doing this month Scott. I have a ticker tracker on my desktop. I'm at just over 100 miles this month so far.
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Posted: March 25, 2012
What kinds of activities?
traineo Guru
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Posted: March 25, 2012
Scott - I'm doing a c25k program right now (on wk 6), lots of walking, biking.
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Posted: March 28, 2012
So, in my efforts to Attack Liver Health, I am doing the following things:

First, as prescribed by my doctor, I am doing a Liver cleanse and using a product called TLC, Total Liver Care by PureZen. I typically use our Vitamix blender to mix Almond Milk, Water, 2 scoops TLC and some frozen strawberries into the shake. Here are some details about this product:

T.L.C. is designed to nourish the body by fueling its natural detoxification pathways with the nutrients needed to achieve optimal detoxification activity. Specific combinations of nutrients are needed to support the function of the organs directly involved in detoxification: liver, kidneys and intestines.

T.L.C. contains the proper amount of vitamins A, B3, B6, C, E, potassium, beta-carotene, amino acids (L-cysteine and L-glutamine), as well as glutathione and phospholipids which work synergistically to support liver and kidney function.

T.L.C. stimulates the optimal function of the liver’s ability to filter out and transform toxic substances into harmless substances that can be excreted. T.L.C. contains a proper amount of high quality protein, complex carbohydrates, and essential which help ensure that the body gets the necessary nutrition in order to prevent muscle and organ breakdown.

T.L.C contains adequate amounts of the nutrients zinc, pantothenic acid, and the amino acid L-glutamine, which support healthy intestinal function. Having healthy bowel movements promote the elimination of toxins while also preventing the leakage of toxic materials from the intestines back into circulation.


I'll have that at home for breakfast.

When I get to work, I have a pile of organic lemons in a bowl on my desk. I cut one in half and squeeze it into some hot water. (I've cut out / or at lease drastically cut back on the coffee.)

If I get hungry before lunch, I eat an apple.

Lunch is typically a salad with chicken, or maybe some fish that I bake in the toaster oven in the office. I have frozen broccoli and cauliflower in the freezer as a side.

I've been good about drinking my water,and adding my Celtic Sea Salt to the water as well... for electrolytes and cell health as well as energy.

Mid afternoon, I try to at a minimum, take a walk. On some days I hit the gym for a quick treadmill workout. Then rush back to the office.

If I get hungry in the afternoon, I can choose from apples, carrots, more veggies, fish or salads etc. I also keep organic brown eggs in the refrigerator for a change in pace. I might also make a cold lemon water for the afternoon as well.

In the evening, I'm looking for more meat and veggies and salad for dinner.

I am avoiding bread, baked goods, cereal, non organic stuff. I drink only water or the occasional green tea. I might break down and have a coffee on the weekend.

I forgot to mention beets. I do not like beets. But I have read that they do wonders for liver health. So, I am doing my best to eat one a day. Usually with lunch. I also forgot to mention the blueberries and strawberries in the fridge as well.

My calories are not down significantly, but my processed carb count is down dramatically. This is likely to be my magic bullet. I have been reading The Primal Blueprint by Mark Sisson of MarksDailyApple.com - this has been a great book so far. Very eye opening!



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Posted: March 28, 2012
Mark = love. Gotta say.

Guys I'm pretty sure if you are eating your protein from real protein sources (aka, not drinking protein shakes every 3 hours) then you're unlikely to be getting too much protein. I'd guess the brain confusion thing is more a side effect of insufficient glucose-supplying food in the diet (aka, carbs) as the brain can only use glucose for fuel.

I probably eat anywhere between 70 and 150g daily, and my liver is in tip top shape! (or close enough, it's still repairing from my drinking days..)
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Posted: April 06, 2012
So I've been working really hard to focus on eating good things for my liver and doing a liver cleanse. Right now, it's all about liver health for me. I can say this for certain - my weight over the last 2 weeks has been a lot less volatile...

In fact, my weight has been down right steady. I was hoping to break into the 280's this week, but that did not happen. I will keep going though.

HOWEVER - I read some interesting - {and Scary} stuff last night about the cholesterol issue that I have. If you recall, my doctor was concerned that my total cholesterol level was too low - 138 when we checked last month. I stumbled across the following information last night:

ScienceDaily (Mar. 26, 2012) (full article) — Low LDL cholesterol in patients with no history of taking cholesterol-lowering drugs predates cancer risk by decades, suggesting there may be some underlying mechanism affecting both cancer and low LDL cholesterol that requires further examination, according to research presented March 25 at the American College of Cardiology's 61st Annual Scientific Session.

While scientific evidence supports the benefits of lowering low-density lipoprotein cholesterol (LDL-C) to help prevent heart disease, previous studies of cholesterol-lowering drugs have suggested a strong association between low levels of LDL-C and cancer risk. This is the first study to examine the relationship of low LDL-C and cancer risk over an extended period of time only in patients with no history of taking cholesterol-lowering drugs.


So - not panicking here, but what the hell does this mean? I need to stay on this to figure out what this means for me. I have new questions for my doctor too.

"There is no evidence to indicate that lowering your cholesterol with a medication in any way predisposes to a risk for cancer. We suspect there may be some underlying mechanism affecting both cancer and low LDL-C, but we can only say definitively that the relationship between the two exists for many years prior to cancer diagnosis, and therefore underscores the need for further examination," Dr. Lavigne said.


So, in other words, there might be a connection between whatever the root cause is of the lowered cholesterol level which may also be the root cause of developing cancer.

{POSITIVE MENTAL THOUGHTS... I AM A HEALTHY MAN, I AM A HEALTHY MAN}

Anyhow, I have more research to do now.
traineo Team
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Posted: April 12, 2012
Scott, stay calm. They just happened to notice a possible connection. That doesn't necessarily mean anything. That's there job - to notice things then to test them scientifically and see if there is any real connection. There is no proof right now (at least according to that little snippet you posted). Remember the bad science video? Don't get carried away.
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Posted: April 12, 2012
Keeping Calm.

I know. I read too much. I need a medical website filter for my computer.

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Posted: April 12, 2012
I think the main bit of info you may be missing is that cholesterol is converted into the hormone cortisol. Cortisol helps your body deal with stress.
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Posted: April 13, 2012
That is an interesting thought as well. I ought to have my cortisol checked on my next bloodwork too. THX

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Posted: May 08, 2012
Where did I recently read that your liver is renewed every 35 days - ? Is that like getting a new upgrade for your phone? Still drinking my water and lemon. Thinking twice about popping in the ibuprofen - but, I guess that one's not hard on your liver.

I'll be interested in your next tests, Scott. Will you be able to tell if your liver is less fat?
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Posted: May 08, 2012
I hope ibprophen isn't bad for the liver because mine would be about dead at this point in my life if that's true. I don't take it now, but before I got pregnant, that was a go-to for me.
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Posted: May 09, 2012
No, I understand it's OK for the liver. It might be hard on the gut if used too much. Tylenol apparently is the hard one on the liver. I have a problem with my elbow since laying floor about one month ago. Apparently it's the nerve on the outside of the joint. I can extend my arm now all the way, though it hurts at the furthest extension. I haven't done any upper body work to speak of for a month at least. Sorry - nothing to do with this thread. Just an ibuprofen issue.
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Posted: May 09, 2012
I'll be interested in your next tests, Scott.

I just called and left a message at my Dr office to see if they will fax me the results for my last 2 tests so I can compare and share. I've been looking forward to this as well.

Tylenol is the bad one, but I have tried to limit the pain meds in general. The only exception is after a 10K that I am sore from. Then I might break down and have an ibuprofen.

Still doing the lemons too. I've gotten quite used to that a couple times a day.
traineo Team
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Posted: May 09, 2012
Scott, have you posted somewhere the breakdown of your total cholesterol level? Like, triglycerides, HDL, LDL, etc?
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