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Splint Chesthair
Fitness Guru Posts: 471
Splint Chesthair
Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.)
http://splintchesthair.blogspot.com/
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# Posted: 15 Feb 2008 21:44
Quoting: isoulride well i ordered the book at barnes and noble because they didn't have it in so now i have to wait for a few days, can't wait to start!
I just found the PDF file on the internet for free. 397 pages! yikes, that's a lot of information about eating.
If I ever do read it I'll buy it in hardcopy though. I can't read 397 pages on the computer but I can get a good idea of whether I want to buy the book.
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David DeVore
traineo Regular Posts: 69
David DeVore
Everyone dies... not everyone really lives
check out my warrior diet progress at (http://isoulride.blogspot.com)
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# Posted: 15 Feb 2008 21:55
Quoting: splint just found the PDF file on the internet for free
is it on a torrent site? whats the URL??
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Ara Bruno
Fitness Guru Posts: 764
Ara Bruno
Not much to say, I like playing video games and watching/playing sports. I work as a web developer for a small company.
I think when I get into shape I want to become a volunteer firefighter.
Goal: Lose 35lbs before Cardio King
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# Posted: 15 Feb 2008 22:23
Quoting: splint I can't read 397 pages on the computer but I can get a good idea of whether I want to buy the book.
Kindle.... lol
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David DeVore
traineo Regular Posts: 69
David DeVore
Everyone dies... not everyone really lives
check out my warrior diet progress at (http://isoulride.blogspot.com)
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# Posted: 18 Feb 2008 15:59
well, i started today. im going to jump in cold turkey, i guess it takes a few days before you don't feel as hungry during the day.
current body fat percentage is at 17.5 (acording to my calipers)
you know what sounds good tonight? a good fresh saled, steak, and mashed potatoes ^_^ as much as i want.
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Splint Chesthair
Fitness Guru Posts: 471
Splint Chesthair
Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.)
http://splintchesthair.blogspot.com/
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# Posted: 18 Feb 2008 20:08
David,
I started today as well. I'm going to keep track of it online here:
Splint Chesthair
I haven't finished the book yet but a lot of what was in it resonated with me. For example, I've always thought it was interesting how food tasted better when you were hungry, like vegetables and fruit.
I haven't finished yet though, only halfway through. Keep in touch and we can compare notes.
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Ara Bruno
Fitness Guru Posts: 764
Ara Bruno
Not much to say, I like playing video games and watching/playing sports. I work as a web developer for a small company.
I think when I get into shape I want to become a volunteer firefighter.
Goal: Lose 35lbs before Cardio King
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# Posted: 18 Feb 2008 20:16
The warrior diet is about eating one meal a day? Or did I read this whole post wrong? 
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David DeVore
traineo Regular Posts: 69
David DeVore
Everyone dies... not everyone really lives
check out my warrior diet progress at (http://isoulride.blogspot.com)
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# Posted: 18 Feb 2008 20:22
you read it right, you're alowed to snack on fresh fruit and veggi's and maybe a few nuts throughout the day. the idea is that while you aren't eating acidic foods your body is given a chance to detox, and your enzymes get a chance to replenish, so your body will be able to better break down what you eat in the evening.
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Ara Bruno
Fitness Guru Posts: 764
Ara Bruno
Not much to say, I like playing video games and watching/playing sports. I work as a web developer for a small company.
I think when I get into shape I want to become a volunteer firefighter.
Goal: Lose 35lbs before Cardio King
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# Posted: 18 Feb 2008 20:24
Hmm sounds interesting... keep me posted... I will be reading the blogs to see how this goes... sounds interesting.
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Splint Chesthair
Fitness Guru Posts: 471
Splint Chesthair
Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.)
http://splintchesthair.blogspot.com/
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# Posted: 18 Feb 2008 20:25
something like that, vegetables, fruits, and a small amount of protein and fats during the day, and then a large meal at home. There are plenty of specifics, such as ending the day with most of your carbs.
I always tell everyone to try things out for themselve so I'm going to give it a go for 30 days and see what happens. I've had a banana, coffee, a parsnip and a carrot so far today. Oddly enough, I don't feel hungry. I didn't work out yet though.
After this experiment, I'll know whether it works for me and I'll be able to give expert advice. That's why I'm doing it.
Also, I'm bored of the maintenance mode. I liked being in that mode where I was trying to lose weight. There was purpose. I want to try this for building muscle and dropping the last of the "stubborn fat". I'm not sure I'd like this for the initial weight loss.
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David DeVore
traineo Regular Posts: 69
David DeVore
Everyone dies... not everyone really lives
check out my warrior diet progress at (http://isoulride.blogspot.com)
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# Posted: 18 Feb 2008 20:26
will do, im going to start up a blog like splint's i'll give you the link when i get it going
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Rob Montgomery
traineo Newbie Posts: 9
Rob Montgomery
www.rmont.blogspot.com
SW: 263 lbs on 2/18/08 GOAL: 75 lbs in 40 Weeks Currently on Week 1
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# Posted: 18 Feb 2008 20:48
I am definitely interested as well.
I will read your blogs if you have them up and running.
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David DeVore
traineo Regular Posts: 69
David DeVore
Everyone dies... not everyone really lives
check out my warrior diet progress at (http://isoulride.blogspot.com)
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# Posted: 19 Feb 2008 05:44
well, I started my blog... (never thought i'd hear those words come out of my mouth ^_-) here's the link. i'll update when i feel like it.
David's Blog
I guess the only thing i can really tell you is, if you want to know about something... try it.
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Rob M.
Fitness Guru Posts: 441
Rob M.
SW: 267 (8/18/08) GW: 185 (4/05/09)
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# Posted: 19 Feb 2008 14:07
I mentioned this diet to my wife and she said "You will absolutely not go on that diet" lol.
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David DeVore
traineo Regular Posts: 69
David DeVore
Everyone dies... not everyone really lives
check out my warrior diet progress at (http://isoulride.blogspot.com)
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# Posted: 19 Feb 2008 14:11
haha ^_^ it goes aganst what a lot of people think. I recomend reading the book, Ori has a lot of sound ideas to back up the program. keep checking out splint and my blogs for feedback. I'll update as much as i can.
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Rob M.
Fitness Guru Posts: 441
Rob M.
SW: 267 (8/18/08) GW: 185 (4/05/09)
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# Posted: 21 Feb 2008 14:23
Well I ended up telling my wife that I was going to give this a shot for a couple days to see how I liked it.
What are the basics of the program? I believe there is a sample of the book on google books, so I will read the first few chapters today to get an idea.
I told her that she can't form an opinion until she tries something.
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Minu ~
The Master Posts: 2581
Minu ~
N u t r i t i o n I g n i t i o n C u l t i v a t i o n E x e r t i o n
One can never be too N.I.C.E.
BELT NOTCHES for 2008:
- Mistressed the PULL-UP! - 2, 1.2km lake swims.
Video of proper Squat form:
http://www.traineo.com/11_5529_0.html
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# Posted: 21 Feb 2008 14:36
Enjoy, gents. I know I enjoy the perks of the style.
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Splint Chesthair
Fitness Guru Posts: 471
Splint Chesthair
Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.)
http://splintchesthair.blogspot.com/
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# Posted: 21 Feb 2008 15:38 - Edited by: splint
Well Rob, the short version is that you're looking to develop a 20-hour controlled fast. During those 20-hours, you eat nothing but fruits and veggies with a low glycemic index so as not to mess with your blood glucose. There are several studies showing that fasting increases the rate of fat metabolism, that is the fat stored in your body. Then for four hours, like 5-9 in the evening, you eat as much as you want of good quality food. The book asks you to start off with veggies and leafy greens. I usually have a huge spinach salad. I normally wouldn't eat such a thing but after 20 hours of not eating it tastes 100% better. Then you eat the majority of your protein/fats after that, then you can follow that up with carbs. I don't completely separate these out, e.g. olive oil on the salad and some carbs in the protein/fats but I try to make it a majority.
You can follow my progress here.
one thing I'll mention is that I'm eating a lot better on this than I was last week, there's little craving for sugar that I've been having over the past month. I've started craving good food. So any progress wouldn't solely be related to the increased fat-metabolism but also the better eating habits, though they could be one in the same.
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Rob M.
Fitness Guru Posts: 441
Rob M.
SW: 267 (8/18/08) GW: 185 (4/05/09)
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# Posted: 21 Feb 2008 15:52
Splint-
Thanks a ton for the info. I am going over to our local library to see if they have the book.
From what I understand there is no calorie counting. I saw from your blog and David's blog that you eat around 300-400 calories during the day in fruits and veggies and almonds/nuts. I imagine you can't go nuts eating at night, so should I stick to like 2000 calories a day with 400 of them coming throughout the day on small healthy fruit/veggie snacks? Then eat the remainder at night?
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Minu ~
The Master Posts: 2581
Minu ~
N u t r i t i o n I g n i t i o n C u l t i v a t i o n E x e r t i o n
One can never be too N.I.C.E.
BELT NOTCHES for 2008:
- Mistressed the PULL-UP! - 2, 1.2km lake swims.
Video of proper Squat form:
http://www.traineo.com/11_5529_0.html
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# Posted: 21 Feb 2008 15:52
Quoting: splint I normally wouldn't eat such a thing but after 20 hours of not eating it tastes 100% better.
AMEN. There is so much to be said for the magical experience of actually being HUNGRY when we eat.
When I enter my eating window I reach for good stuff like apples, nuts, legumes, greens, yogurt, quinoa, muslix, etc.;never ONCE has it been for a bon-bon or some other empty source.
FWIW, I don't order the foods I eat as per the Warrior diet, I just eat what comes naturally in whatever order that may happen in as I'm not on that diet--just implementing the main gist with a 19-20 hour daily fast, with some cycling of the calorie levels thrown in to keep it mixy.
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Minu ~
The Master Posts: 2581
Minu ~
N u t r i t i o n I g n i t i o n C u l t i v a t i o n E x e r t i o n
One can never be too N.I.C.E.
BELT NOTCHES for 2008:
- Mistressed the PULL-UP! - 2, 1.2km lake swims.
Video of proper Squat form:
http://www.traineo.com/11_5529_0.html
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# Posted: 21 Feb 2008 15:54
Quoting: RMontgomery so should I stick to like 2000 calories a day with 400 of them coming throughout the day on small healthy fruit/veggie snacks? Then eat the remainder at night?
Rob,
If I may, I'd say that this is a good plan until you get into the groove. It's never a good idea to eat more than we really need.

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David DeVore
traineo Regular Posts: 69
David DeVore
Everyone dies... not everyone really lives
check out my warrior diet progress at (http://isoulride.blogspot.com)
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# Posted: 21 Feb 2008 15:59 - Edited by: isoulride
the main thing is to eat untill you're full. you'll figure where that is with trial and error.
I can usually only manage 1000 or so calories for my meal, then later I'll grab a snack.
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Splint Chesthair
Fitness Guru Posts: 471
Splint Chesthair
Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.)
http://splintchesthair.blogspot.com/
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# Posted: 21 Feb 2008 15:59
I agree with Minu. Today I'm actually trying a complete fast during the day, no calories at all. If you stick to good quality foods at night, it'll be hard to eat too much. I ate about 1900 calories last night and I was freaking stuffed. That brought my daily total to about 2500, which is normal for me.
minu,
The Warrior Diet asks for that order of foods eating at night because of some theory on protein absorption. That you need to keep your carbs a protein/fats mostly separate or they'll interfere with protein utilization. I'm not sure I buy it completely. There's a lot of wacky stuff in the the book, like detoxification from nuclear radioactive fallout (WTF?). I'm not following the diet exactly.
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Minu ~
The Master Posts: 2581
Minu ~
N u t r i t i o n I g n i t i o n C u l t i v a t i o n E x e r t i o n
One can never be too N.I.C.E.
BELT NOTCHES for 2008:
- Mistressed the PULL-UP! - 2, 1.2km lake swims.
Video of proper Squat form:
http://www.traineo.com/11_5529_0.html
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# Posted: 21 Feb 2008 16:03
Quoting: splint There's a lot of wacky stuff in the the book, like detoxification from nuclear radioactive fallout (WTF?). I'm not following the diet exactly.
What theeeeeeeeeeeee hell? I've only read what's on the site--not the book. That sounds a tad crazed.
I thought the carbs last deal was suggested mainly to keep from hoggin' out, heheh...
As for full on fasting when not in the window, I do it quite often on days that I don't workout with no problemo at all and MAN does that first infusion of well-waited-for food SING!
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Rob M.
Fitness Guru Posts: 441
Rob M.
SW: 267 (8/18/08) GW: 185 (4/05/09)
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# Posted: 21 Feb 2008 16:04
Hey, most brilliant thinkers are absolutely nuts, lol.
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Splint Chesthair
Fitness Guru Posts: 471
Splint Chesthair
Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.)
http://splintchesthair.blogspot.com/
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# Posted: 21 Feb 2008 16:09
The other thing I don't like is the sample menu is full of supplements and they're stuff like milk thistle and gingko biloba and surprise surprise, som proprietary products like WarrioMilk and Warriorserum.
I understand and all but I'm not going to go be hunting around for milk thistle and these special products. I refuse to buy anything other than protein powder and a daily multi-vitamin.
I don't believe in throwing the baby out with the bath water though either.
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David DeVore
traineo Regular Posts: 69
David DeVore
Everyone dies... not everyone really lives
check out my warrior diet progress at (http://isoulride.blogspot.com)
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# Posted: 21 Feb 2008 16:11
I don't take what's in the book to be gospel, thats why I'm trying it to see if I benifit from it. as far as the stuff that happens on a cellier level, well woopty doo, I have no means to test out that theory. So I'm going to stick to the parts that I can measure.
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Minu ~
The Master Posts: 2581
Minu ~
N u t r i t i o n I g n i t i o n C u l t i v a t i o n E x e r t i o n
One can never be too N.I.C.E.
BELT NOTCHES for 2008:
- Mistressed the PULL-UP! - 2, 1.2km lake swims.
Video of proper Squat form:
http://www.traineo.com/11_5529_0.html
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# Posted: 21 Feb 2008 16:11
I'm all about "the gist", and if it's not doing the trick, get tweaky.
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Rob M.
Fitness Guru Posts: 441
Rob M.
SW: 267 (8/18/08) GW: 185 (4/05/09)
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# Posted: 21 Feb 2008 16:15
I am going to ween myself onto the diet. I am eating lunch now (10am) just to get used to going longer periods without food. Then pick the book up tonight, and maybe start like Saturday after I had a couple practice days of going without food for longer hours.
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Splint Chesthair
Fitness Guru Posts: 471
Splint Chesthair
Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.)
http://splintchesthair.blogspot.com/
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# Posted: 21 Feb 2008 16:16
Right-o, bottom line is that intermittent fasting has been shown to increase fat metabolism, in actual humans, not rats.
Plus, I've always noticed how much better food tastes when you're hungry. I love that. This is a great way to incorporate that everyday. Plus, I really am much more alert during the day, no afternoon crashes or feeling sleepy.
Nothing is either all good or all bad.
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Minu ~
The Master Posts: 2581
Minu ~
N u t r i t i o n I g n i t i o n C u l t i v a t i o n E x e r t i o n
One can never be too N.I.C.E.
BELT NOTCHES for 2008:
- Mistressed the PULL-UP! - 2, 1.2km lake swims.
Video of proper Squat form:
http://www.traineo.com/11_5529_0.html
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# Posted: 21 Feb 2008 16:20
Quoting: splint Plus, I really am much more alert during the day, no afternoon crashes or feeling sleepy.
Ditto here. Freakishly ON and I love it, RAHHHHHRRRR!

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