Have you heard about the "Warrior diet" ( www.warriordiet.com ) created by Ori Hofmekler ? Or better yet , have you tried it ? Clarence Bass gives his point of view here : http://www.cbass.com/warrior_diet.htm . I would like to hear your oppinions . It showed some results for me , but I've switched to "Cereal Warrior diet"

Hey Lex, what kind of cereal are you eating?

I tend to rotate between plain Quaker Oatmeal or Fiber One cereal (both just with water)

fiber one but I mix it with yogurt instead of milk (or water!)

Sounds interresting...So does it involve intermittent fasting? If so it kind of reminds of what I am doing with the Johnson's Up Day, Down Day Diet....One day the calories are very restricted and the next day you eat whatever you want.

It is working well to, helping me start on target.

I think that if you were to duplicate as closely as possible the lives of Roman/Greek warriors - you'd get in fanastic shape... just like you would in Boot Camp or other similar "work you're butt off" excerise where you push yourself to your limits. Frankly, I'd rather stick with things I like to do (excerise hard at them) , eating right, and a little strength training...

I'm going to get the book. seriously considering trying it. I just have questions concerning the way the metabolism and blood sugar levels will be affected. I'm going to purchase a glucose meter, and check my level throughout the day for the first few weeks to see what effect it has. when i read about it online people keep saying that its a good idea to have fresh fruit and nut snacks throughout the day, my guess is it keeps your metabolism and your blood sugar in check, but i don't know.

My goal is not based on loosing weight, i'd like to see how this style of eating affects my energy level though. and it would be nice to lower my body fat percentage... but thats just me being picky

I for one would be really interested in reading all about this, so feel most free to start a thread here on that when some results are in.

Interestingly enough I did try this diet a good few years ago when I first discovered Pavel and dragondoor.com. It did give me very good results and my performance did go very high. We (my housemate at the time and me) had a couple of books of his that went into a lot of detail about the ins and outs. I don't know why I stopped at the time, though logically it never sounded right and everyone I spoke to about it rejected the concept. I was rich as well, as I never spent any money on lunch.

So in short, it did help my performance, though was no good for trying to build muscle. I always have a healthy appetite, however I never struggled to follow the plan and always had good energy levels.

The reading that I've been doing on the subject of WOE's, (ways of eating), seem to be mixed, but there is lots on how different body types react to not only different kinds of food and ratios, but when it's eaten, and like the Warrior way, in what quantities.

On the subject of the Warrior style, I have never been a big breaky eater, I tend to wake, enjoy some java, take care of the virtual biz and then workout an hour or two later, always with optimal reserves of energy for the whole session. Infact, I do better when there's nothing in the tank, tummy-wise. I just don't seem to need the fuel until much later in the day; where as other folks simply must have breakfast in order to not only perform, but to keep their nibblies at bay.

FWIW, I am also no stranger to the small-frequent-meal-deal, and I've lost weight with both methods.

That said, I sure do prefer the no-brainer-ness of the Warrior style, (F5 is the plan I often employ, I have yet to do the Warrior diet), not even bothering to think of food until the eve. rolls around, (aside from a post workout modest cal. infusion if it's a workout day).

But in the big pic., if there is truth to this body-typing business, (and from my experience, I'd say that there is), then like all things, this diet can't possibly be for everyone, and it's all about finding what works for each of us.

Here's a link to an interview with the Warrior's creator, Ori Hofmekler for anyone curious to read more about it.

One of the good things about the warrior diet looking back, was that all through the day you could only eat 'live foods'. This was basically raw, unprocessed natural foods. As a result I found I did eat more fruit and veg. Then for my meal in the evening the idea was to eat food groups separate. First I would have a bowl of soup with extra veg in, then a protein source, and then I would eat carbs until I started to feel thirsty. The thirst was a sign that I had fulfilled my quota.

The only exception was post workout shakes, which I always had regardless of what time of the day that I trained, however in the book they do allow for that.

You know, I may revisit this some time in the future out of curiosity.

One thing's for sure, that Mr. Hofmekler looks FANTASTIC. Exactly the kind of physique that draws my attention.

so i sent an email to the author, and here's what I said, and what he said...

1. have any studies been done that indicate whether or not this eating pattern negatively or positively affects your metabolism?


All references are in the book. (go figure ^_^)



2. Blood sugar. have there been documented cases concerning people with blood sugar problems? seems like such a dramatic change in eating pattern would cause someones blood sugar to off-set untill the body got used to it.

We received testimonials from diabetics (type II diabetes) who managed to naturally reverse their conditions.

(might be worth looking into)

hey dean, did you use this diet to get in shape for fighting? just curious, and did you follow Ori's workout style? I have the book on order... can't wait to read it.

No, it wasn't to get in shape for fighting specifically though we did do a lot of martial arts in our training at the time. (Don't do so much now). I was into Wing Chun/ Tai Chi and my housemate studied Tae Kwon Do.

I would say it worked well with that line of training. Personally I've only ever competed at Wing Chun once, and it was a bit of a joke. It was literally drawn by grading, height and weight and I ended up in the biggest mis-match of the evening. Of course, I won, but it certainly didn't prove anything. In theory technique is more important than physicality in this art, but even so, he was so unfit that his reaction time was slower than British Rail.

No, I didn't follow his workout to the letter. I had many things that I was training for. However, I did digest it and incorporate parts.

For training I put my faith in Pavel Tsatsouline

Heheh... And how does that compare to the Royal Mail? (When they're not on strike, of course ; ).

Well quite. The funny thing is they are often on strike to get a pay rise?? If they did their job well I could understand.

They need to work on their intensity.

when you changed back to a normal diet, did you notice anything? weight change/fatigue/blood sugar thrown off?

I found I had less endurance possibly, and was slower definitely over the first hour when I had changed back. I think that was because when your system is empty it just runs clean, with nothing holding it back.

I did get heavier and filled out afterward, though I didn't mind that at first as I was keen to grow, which was partly why I stopped. Also, now I remember, that was the last time I suffered with my shoulder dislocations and after that I stopped upper body training and had it operated on. I did put on about 15 pounds throughout the whole process, and never went back to the warrior ways.

Am seriously considering revisiting those days though.

I've been doing a similar plan to the Warrior way for a while now, though my eating window is for 5 hours, not 4, although sometimes it's less than both.

I find it freeing: My system buzzing and ON when I need to be huslting, and geared down and chilling when I like that the most.

oh hey, i noticed that you live in Paris Minu, I spent a day there on my romp through great Britain (took the chunnel from London), one thing I noted was there were no fat people ^_^ (maybe they were all inside eating...) but i think the busy fast paced lifestyle definitely helps people keep their weight in check. (oh, and london was even faster-paced)

Paris is by nature a slim lady, yes; could have to do with a number of factors, one of which being the many stairs in the metro system that gets USED. Also, the square km-age of Paris major is not large at all, which likely promotes more walking than a more spread out city would.

That said, one must only move away from the center to the 'burbs to watch the waistlines widen.

*sigh* i wish i could be on that side of the globe right now, my workday would be almost over

oh well,



i think this is true for all cultures, i live outside of the city limits of a small city. and public transportation is almost non-existent here... unless you go to new york or something like that.

I agree with this statement. Most of Europe that I visited (Ireland, England, Whales and France) everything was close and in walking distance of my hotel ... Which I loved. Which made me walk more than take a cab or what not to the places I needed to go. Even when I went out to eat I would walk to the restaurant then walk back burning whatever I just ate. ... I miss Europe

Hohhhn-HOHHHNNN!?!?!? You sink zo meesuuur? You'd probably have to walk, and that's cranked, for a good 5-6 hours to burn off a typical French evening dinner.

That's what I like about Warrioring, so to speak; my days aren't filled with food already, so the evening meal is so much more enjoyable--and required, rather than surplus.




I agree, and had originally noted the same, but then re-worded the sentence and it went MIA.

haha i want to learn french so i can order my starbucks this time without waving my arms around and grunting

hahaha good memories ^_^ the poor girl didn't speak a lick of english, something kind of fun about it though.

anyways, im not warrioring yet so im going to go out and get some chipotle for lunch ^_^ (if you couldn't tell, i do enjoy my taco's) has chipotle crossed the big water yet? I think they put drugs or something in their steak, just kidding, but its good stuff

One of the things I miss most about living in Stockholm - I walked everywhere and it did wonders for my fitness!

Not enough to catch the Parisian fellow that made off w/ my passport and plane ticket, but I did give chase w/ a 60lb pack over a couple sets of those afore-mentioned stairs!

Haha some guy I went with got pickpocted on the tram by some 6 yo punk. Got his passport to.

well i ordered the book at barnes and noble because they didn't have it in so now i have to wait for a few days, can't wait to start!