http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.html traineo forum thread - Has any one tried the Rotation Diet? Sat, 02 Aug 2008 10:33:52 +0000 http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_2.htmlLaura, lots of WW people hit plateaus and become discouraged, and quite a few have found that varying their points intake gets the weight loss moving again. For instance, instead of 20 points/day, they'll switch to something like a 18-22-19-21-17-20-23 pattern (all kinds of variations are possible as long as the points tend to average out to what they're supposed to be eating) and find that their body finally remembers it's supposed to be losing. I think changing the points arou...http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_2.htmlSat, 02 Aug 2008 10:33:52 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_2.htmlGood luck Daniel and your wife! I was just now online browsing some additional menu plans for this diet, and accidently found this site. Yes, it does work. I had been schlepping along with Weight Watchers for several months, and needed a jump start. This spring, a co-worker gave me an old xeroxed copy of this original diet from Family Circle magazine from 1986. This was published before Dr. Katahn even published his book. I tried the plan and immediately jump-started my diet, while I continu...http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_2.htmlWed, 30 Jul 2008 10:22:46 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_2.htmlthe rotation diet is GREAT! I did it 25 years ago and lost 15 pounds in 4 weeks and kept it off for 20 years. The key is to a) be physically active (brisk walking for 45 min/day) and b) "fool" the body's metabolic sensor by alternating a severe diet week with a mild week. It worked for me and my wife! It turns out the "diet" is really a "head game" to help you change the way you look at food. It is the "eat more veggies and fruit and less caloric-ri...http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_2.htmlTue, 29 Jul 2008 23:21:50 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_2.htmlQuoting: vmeloIn short, you're advocating a solution that many have tried and that hasn't worked for most. Do you see what I mean? Sorry, but it really does work. The problem most people have is they see it as a diet, which it is not. If you want to lose a significant amount of weight and keep it off, you need to eat healthy and exercise FOR EVER, not for 2 or 3 months until you reach your goal and then give up. Eating right is not a diet. Quoting: TEAMCHINANo matter how hard or ...http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_2.htmlTue, 27 May 2008 22:12:56 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_2.htmlQuoting: vmeloClifford, I had to chuckle at your sarcasm-laced post that claims that I'm reviving the "animosity." Your post was 20 days after the last on subject post not counting a post made on the 14th that no one responded to and, at that point, everyone had parted ways agreeing to disagree but in fairly positive terms. You went right into a rant about how wrong we all are for disagreeing at all and that "eating smart and exercise" doesn't work. At what point...http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_2.htmlTue, 27 May 2008 12:53:38 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_2.htmlClifford, I had to chuckle at your sarcasm-laced post that claims that I'm reviving the "animosity." Actually, in some strange way, I think we actually agree. I understand your point about a "time delimited" program and keeping the weight off. My point is, though, that the traditional way of weight loss that everyone always advocates does not work for the majority (check the statistics on longterm success for those who lose this way or any way for that matter). Yo...http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_2.htmlTue, 27 May 2008 11:30:53 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_2.htmlQuoting: vmeloKurt & Jen---Best of luck to you. Don't let the naysayers get you down. Wow, this thread was dead and all the animoscity had subsided... way to try to revive it! Quoting: XonmanYou can't quickly lose 20 lbs and then go back and enjoy daily cheeseburgers, because then 6 months later you're back on your diet. We've already made our opinions clear so I won't descend back into a lengthy diatribe about what I think or why I think it, but my own expe...http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_2.htmlTue, 27 May 2008 05:57:09 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_2.htmlCliff and stand up bean I got your back.....all I have to say its the Abs diet is one the best books on the market. Actual food.....when I was in high school I was in the best shape of my life with the workouts and nutrition side. Unfortunately really really late nights....and college forced me to pack on the pounds. Good thing I am heading back to basics....http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_2.htmlTue, 27 May 2008 05:41:13 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlAnother newbie chiming in here. What really kills me about these diets is the fact they promote quick weight loss in a certain amount of time, and then you're off the diet and you can go about your merry way. 55 pounds ago, I agreed that the simple "eat right and exercise" line was a myth made up by skinny people, but I've followed it for 2 years and now I'm skinny, fit and healthy. A thought occured yesterday when somebody said to me "Wow Luke you're always...http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlTue, 27 May 2008 01:25:52 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlWhat kills me about all these "just-eat-a-moderate-diet-and-exercise" people is that they're speaking as if none of us has ever tried this before. I've got news for all you nay-sayers out there: I've lost 50 lbs. at least three times in my life and all three times I did it the "healthy" way---i.e., eating a balanced diet & exercising and losing 1 lb. a week. I've even dieted the simple way by eating just three moderate meals a day (no calorie counti...http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlMon, 26 May 2008 20:22:24 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlI just bought The Rotation Diet book last night. My uncle used this diet successfully 20 years ago. I really hope it works as well for me. http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlWed, 14 May 2008 18:32:46 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlQuoting: TEAMCHINAnot that there isn't a whole lot of pretty happening in my mirror already! Clifford, Just giving you fair notice that I'm taking this line and I'm going to use it often. http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlWed, 07 May 2008 15:01:03 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlQuoting: MilissaThe RD does not necessarily result in skinny-but-flabby: failure to exercise results in that. The RD also does not necessarily result in metabolic slowdown: failure to exercise results in that. I actually disagree with that; exercise will speed up the process and is crucial to BUILDING muscle, but you don't have to gain muscle to lose weight (in fact, if your focus is on the scale, which I firmly believe it shouldn't be, then gaining muscle mass would go against ...http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlWed, 07 May 2008 05:42:08 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlThe problem with this thread is that no mention of macro nutrient balances, types of foods, etc. for the RD diet have been addressed, only the calorie content of those foods, and "free foods" (whatever that is). Neither has the duration for the "low" days been addressed, so people assume you are permanently in low-calorie mode. If you people defending your diets would ever care to inject those crucial bits of information, perhaps you wouldn't be ridiculed as badl...http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlWed, 07 May 2008 01:57:36 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlNewbie here, and what follows is FWIW. I found this thread by accident and read it with interest. I don't think that wading through every off-hand comment made by others is necessary in this introductory venue, but I shall point out that the Rotation Diet is very little different from Pritikin's or Ornish's old warhorse plans, and is considerably sounder than some of the newer offerings. To a large degree, the RD reminds me most of the South Beach Diet, it's just that ...http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlTue, 06 May 2008 22:14:22 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmljen, i'm sorry you've had so much trouble, and i'm glad you have a professional evaluating your process. out of curiosity (please don't interpret this the wrong way), is a dietician a doctor? and just so rumors don't get started, i'm running a triathlon, not a marathon. my goal to do the iron man (which includes a marathon) is 2010....http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlTue, 06 May 2008 13:56:48 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlJen no hard feelings here. I'm sorry that you are having so much trouble losing weight. Before you started the RD, what kind of diet did your dietitian have you on?http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlTue, 06 May 2008 13:10:21 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlHey, I just want to apologize for the other day. Obviously some buttons were pushed and I pushed back a little more than I should have. I just felt that people could have been a little more supportive. But I had no right to be so cruel. I am sorry. And I understand that it is an unconventional diet that looks like (and, may for some, be) a bad choice. But I am under the guidance of a dietician from a great hospital as I have been trying to lose weight with no success using conventional...http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlTue, 06 May 2008 02:49:48 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlQuoting: rach_1623 I think if I hear you refer to it one more time, I may actually read it. Hehe. Just messin Cliff. Hopefully, I'll get around to it in the near future. I have to finish my sci fi book first though!!! Mention what? The Abs Diet by David Zinczenko? Do I really talk about The Abs Diet by David Zinczenko that often? I guess that book to me is 9/11 to Guiliani ...http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlThu, 01 May 2008 23:46:54 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlQuoting: TEAMCHINAHighlight the text in the post and click the "Quote" link for that post and it'll add the tags to the reply box... That's ridiculously simple. Thanks. I have "The Abs Diet" cookbook - but not he bookbook. Haven't tried any of the recipes though. I used to do catering and have lots of cookbooks - sometimes I read them like novels. Sick....http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlThu, 01 May 2008 22:32:09 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlQuoting: TEAMCHINAyou should check out "The Abs Diet" by David Zinczenko I think if I hear you refer to it one more time, I may actually read it. Hehe. Just messin Cliff. Hopefully, I'll get around to it in the near future. I have to finish my sci fi book first though!!! http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlThu, 01 May 2008 22:16:10 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlQuoting: Kirkd524Will someone please tell me how to use the "quote" feature on this? I can't figure it out. Highlight the text in the post and click the "Quote" link for that post and it'll add the tags to the reply box... Traineo doesn't have the most intuitive UI for the forums, but it's workable and once you get past the initial "huh?" phase it works nicely enough. I don't think that anyone can stay to a diet with strict rules and b...http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlThu, 01 May 2008 22:12:06 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlI appreciate all of your comments, really I do. Even though some (most?) of you don't agree with me, it still feels like being cared for because I know you mean well. So, going forward I'd like us to be kind to each other and I'll try to do the same. I also need to 'fess up to some degree. The truth is, I'm not a hard-line-follow-the-diet-to-a-T person. Talk about stressful!! Even though it's not intentional, I'd say I use the Rotation Diet as a founda...http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlThu, 01 May 2008 22:04:21 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlIf this diet works for you, great. If it helps you lose weight and stay healthy, awesome. I just don't personally believe that it would work in a healthy way for me or the majority of people in a situation where they need to lose weight. Quoting: jen96my body doesn't lose weight with exercise - it never has - and from what I've read, and know from my job, it isn't really supposed to. You aren't supposed to lose weight with exercise? That's news to me consideri...http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlThu, 01 May 2008 20:42:59 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmloh. you're right.http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlThu, 01 May 2008 20:09:10 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlstand up bean, I guess I've never been 75 lbs overweight --- and never had to lose it to feel good about myself while putting others down. I was never even 75lbs overweight when I was pregnant, any of the times. Good for you for running a marathon --- If you're ever up in the Rockies I run a lot of races there. You really need to read before you open your mouth --- like Kirk says it is full of nutritional information --- not fad hype. It's only a fad if you skim the subtext...http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlThu, 01 May 2008 20:05:37 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlQuoting: jen96You nay sayers need to get a life and find someone to pump up instead of put down. another example of this type of situation would be: my friend says she's very stressed out. i want to help her, and then she calls me again saying "i don't need to worry about stress anymore! i've discovered eating a Big Mac relieves stress for me!" okay yes that's true, but it isn't the optimal way to live and to live stress-free. i would not support her contin...http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlThu, 01 May 2008 19:11:14 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlKirk - I want you to know that I support you as this diet has worked for me in the past and is now again working for me. If people don't like what we are doing find another thread and stop being so negative. That is not what this is for... And I also wanted to say that I am and always have been exercising, but my body doesn't lose weight with exercise - it never has - and from what I've read, and know from my job, it isn't really supposed to. I'm actually very acti...http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlThu, 01 May 2008 19:00:26 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlWe're at an impass here. Clifford I don't believe you've read the book - or you've missed one of the major points. So, I'm not arguing this with anyone anymore. It's 250 pages of information and only a small fraction of it is "the diet" itself. I should say that this diet isn't for everybody. When I was in my 20s I'd never have considered it - didn't need it! I had tons of energy and went to the gymn 3-5 times a week and had a 30&quo...http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlThu, 01 May 2008 13:04:38 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlQuoting: Kirkd524Your comments seem to be knee jerk reactions to what you think you know. Our comments are mostly based on a real and fundamental understanding of how the human body works, which is to say that your body (EVERYONE's body) wants to mantain a state of homeostasis; shocking your body for something like exercise is GOOD because it disrupts that state and causes your body to adapt (build muscle), but something as fundamental as fuel, especially in the manner that this diet doe...http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlThu, 01 May 2008 06:41:57 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlI thought of a couple more things about this diet that may be helpful. The Rotation Diet was developed by Martin Katahn, PhD - Director of the Weight Management Program at Vanderbilt Universtiy. He's hardly a slouch (although I believe he's retired now). For what it's worth, the majority of the book is devoted to the maintaining your weight after you've lost what you need to loose. In my first post, I admitted I gained weight back. But, honestly, it's not becaus...http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlThu, 01 May 2008 03:36:52 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlAll I'll say is this: Until you've read the entire book and understand the philosophy you may be speaking out of ignorance. Your comments seem to be knee jerk reactions to what you think you know. I suppose none of you know that you really spend most of the diet on 1,500-2,000 calories per day (depending on the amounts of safe fruits/vegetables you WANT to eat) - it's only the first few days that you shock your metabolism be drastically reducing your calorie intake. It's ...http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlWed, 30 Apr 2008 20:43:47 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlWell, because I totally went out of control and have put 40 lbs. on the past 4 years - mostly from fast food and a hectic schedule. That is the fundamental problem with this type of diet. It's not something that you can sustain long term. You will always gain the weight back. That's why people are suggesting that you don't bother with these fad diets. Just eat good healthy foods and exercise. The weight will come off and it's much more sustainable....http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlWed, 30 Apr 2008 17:21:41 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlKirk, to be able to support you on such a low calorie diet... I mean you would need a doctor (or 2) to tell you that you should only eat that much. Such a low calorie diet plan is like anorexia. Your body needs fuel. Starving yourself is not the answer. Bean wasn't exactly polite in the way he said it, but he's right. You need to eat....http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlWed, 30 Apr 2008 13:40:00 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlWhatever, Bean.http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlWed, 30 Apr 2008 13:11:43 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlQuoting: Kirkd524I'm also happy to find traineo since I think the support will be really good! if you do this diet, i will not support you for one moment. just eat. exercise at a high intensity, yes, but eat.http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlMon, 28 Apr 2008 18:52:24 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlI tried the Rotation Diet about 4 years ago and it was fantastic! I'm starting it again tomorrow. Why? Well, because I totally went out of control and have put 40 lbs. on the past 4 years - mostly from fast food and a hectic schedule. The key, I think, is to read the entire book before you start the diet. It's not as restrictive as you may think. You have "safe vegetables" that you can eat anytime and as much as you want and a "safe fruit" you can go to when yo...http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlSun, 27 Apr 2008 15:50:25 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlWow, thread necromancy from exactly a year ago; that's impressive! If it works for you, great, but just be sure that your weight loss is fat and not muscle... most likely, since you've lost 6 lbs in 7 days, I'm going to say that you've mostly lost water and some muscle, probably not a lot of fat. This restrictive a diet will certainly cause you to lose weight, but it's not the weight you want to lose. I personally don't believe that this type of diet is health...http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_1.htmlSun, 27 Apr 2008 07:35:18 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlHi. New to traineo but I have been following this thread since it started. I started the Rotation diet almost 7 days ago. It might not be good for you --- as some of your have said --- but I have lost 6lbs already and I am NOT hungry. I found great ready-made foods that have helped me through the first days when the calories were very reduced. I am almost fearful of going to 1200 calories (tomorrow), as I don't want the weight to slow down but I know it is a good break for me and I know ...http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlSat, 26 Apr 2008 23:50:15 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlActually I am borderline overweight- I don't eat properly all the time- I don't fit in enough exercise either BUT- I never said in my previous post that this is a simple statement to lose weight- I am just pointing out that it is ridiculous to follow unhealthy diets such as the one mentioned above. If you follow a healthy diet (and I mean learn how to do this- I went to a dietician to learn and I'm a nurse- they have a wealth of info), get enough incidental exercise- then you are ...http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlThu, 26 Apr 2007 23:35:22 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlSpoken like one who can eat what they want and not gain weight. If it were that simple I'd be a model already.http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlThu, 26 Apr 2007 02:59:09 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlExactly. Well said Heather. Losing weight is a mysterious event that never seems to be in my realm of control... regardless of how much I move and how closely I monitor what I put in my mouth. It has left me feeling not only trapped in my body, at times, but downright confused of where I went wrong, how carb sensitive could one person be a still be human, how many grams of protein are healthy for me, if I don't feel like eating much one day is that really going to halt my metabolism...http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlThu, 26 Apr 2007 01:52:20 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlI'm gonna go out on a limb here. You're not fat are you, Toni. That advice you gave is what thin people typically think is the one thing that seperated them from fat people. I'm not fat myself but I know from what I've seen that there are a whole bunch of fat people walking about who eat better than thin people AND do more exercise. It's really not as simple (or as blameworthy) as some would have you believe. You're little nugget of wisdom sound so simple - ...http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlWed, 25 Apr 2007 15:28:33 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlAre you guys kidding? Just eat the right food groups (mix of whole wheat cereal, vegetables, etc, exercise to burn off what you eat- (not aerobics- just, increasing your daily activity- WALK TO THE SHOPS, PICK THE KIDS UP, GET A PACKAGE) be happy- and stop obsessing about your weight!!- drop those brainless magazines in the garbage- find a fun way to lose weight- dance- enjoy music- STOP OBSESSING!!!)...http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlWed, 25 Apr 2007 14:06:14 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlBug and Connie! Hey ladies! I just thought I'd check up on you two and let you know I'm rooting for you both! I hope you're still getting that excercise in and taking care of your bodies! I miss your posts over on JUDDDD, but I'm thrilled to see you're still on this journey! Keep up the great work!...http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlWed, 25 Apr 2007 00:06:22 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlI am sorry to hear about your father and your work being stressful. I know when I diet I have to totally concentrate on my diet or I can't do it. At least that's how it used to be. Now I'm pretty much in control. I am down to 179 by keeping my calories very low. I had gone up to 190 on JUDDD so this past month I've lost 11 lbs. I am starting to stall out again so my plan is to keep my carbs at 20 or below like Atkins and keep my fiber and my protein up. If that doesn&...http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlTue, 24 Apr 2007 23:27:22 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlOk, everyone I am back in action, My father was very sick, my work was too stessful and I justs need a break. I am starting the Roation Diet on Wednesday 4/25 and I will post every wednesday with my wieght in. Conniehttp://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlTue, 24 Apr 2007 21:52:07 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlConnie, How are you doing? I haven't been over here for awhile..Starting Monday I will exercise everyday again. I need to make it a priority...http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlSat, 17 Mar 2007 03:57:10 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlMarie, you sound like your really know what you are taking about when it comes to dieting. i am very young but feel like I have been on a deit my whole life and still I don't know what I am doing.http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlTue, 13 Mar 2007 02:31:34 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlI am feeling fine. Hardly hungry at all. My clothes are feeling looser but I can't see a lot of loss. My overall health is good, esp. for my age. I see younger people than me who are in such bad shape but I am healthy. Thanks for asking and I'm glad I will have someone on the diet with me when I do it......http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlTue, 13 Mar 2007 02:27:53 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlMarie, Thank you for been here for me I hope you try this diet with me. You are right that stupit chocolate bar, but it tasted soooo good. I can't wait until this week is over. and I can get back to losing weight. I don't think I will lose much this week because my calories are so much higher than they were before. I am scared that that I am going to have a hard time going back to 600 calories after being at 1200 for a whole week. I hope I can do it. How are things working ou...http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlTue, 13 Mar 2007 02:04:19 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlConnie, If you read your post again, where you lost it was that 1/2 chocolate bar. Try not to eat very much sugar, it will make you hungry and give you cravings. I am so proud of you for doing so good on this plan. I have been coasting for 5-6 days but as soon as company leaves I'm trying this. Good luck to you......http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlTue, 13 Mar 2007 01:57:54 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlQuoting: vjwylieMy professor did a diet like that where he was essentially not eating enough to get through a day. He ended up getting lightheaded whenever he stood up. He was very irritable with us as well, which made spending classes and outside time with him almost unbearable. I am sorry that you had to have a professor like this, But i find that even on very low calories I don't get light headed. I think that you eat the wrong things when you are restricting your calorie intake, it ...http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlTue, 13 Mar 2007 01:56:10 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlHi everyone, I have been very busy with well life. But it has been a week and the results are great. I am very happy with my decision to switch. I think that after a few weeks of the rotation diet i will go back to JUDDDs for a break. The first week was really easy. It was even easier to see everyday that I had lose another pound and another pound and another pound. i am having only one problem with the rotation diet, and it is the same problem i had with JUDDDD. I am now on my 2nd week and I ...http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlTue, 13 Mar 2007 01:43:52 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlNot to worry! There are very few of us that only eat 200 on a down day. If the professor had been doing his off days right he would not have felt that way. Different people do it differently. What works for one may not work for another. The down days are my easiest days. It takes a little time to figure out ways to beat the hunger, no need to get cranky...Maybe he was only having super low days??? And no up days...maybe not drinking enough water??...http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlMon, 12 Mar 2007 18:10:53 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlMy professor did a diet like that where he was essentially not eating enough to get through a day. He ended up getting lightheaded whenever he stood up. He was very irritable with us as well, which made spending classes and outside time with him almost unbearable. And the worst part is, as soon as he went off the diet and started eating regularly again (and by regularly, I mean really very healthy) he gained all the weight back plus some because his body was so used to starving. I would be ...http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlMon, 12 Mar 2007 14:59:21 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlconnie, it sounds like it's working for you and that can only be a good thing keep up the good workhttp://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlMon, 12 Mar 2007 14:58:52 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlI had 4 up days trying to break the starvation mode that I got myself in. I am up at the top of top of the 3 lbs I keep losing and gaining. Feb 2nd I weighed 186 and today I weigh 187. Five weeks and I gained a lb. But I didn't gain yesterday or today. You know I probably would lose better on the rotation diet. I may do that. Right now I'm idling until my body forgets I'm dieting. Your family is darling. Just keep on doing whatever works for you, I am glad it's workin...http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlMon, 12 Mar 2007 14:49:06 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlOk I weighted in again today, I know I said I would wait until the end of the week but, i couldn't, I started on Monday at 234 and today I weighted in at 226 wow, it would take another five weeks on JUDDDD to get this far. I know that i will not continue to lose weight this fast, but right now it feels great....http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlThu, 08 Mar 2007 22:35:45 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlBug, Hi, I know how you feel. I think you are right, it is a bootcamp. How do you feel on your downdays, like you are really hunger or do you feel good? I know that i always felt better on downdays. I am just finishing my last 600 cal day and it wasn't bad. I like it because i don't have to worry about what i eat, I have a yogurt for breakfast, salad and cup of veggie soup, and dinner is some frozen dinner. and that really works for me. When i wasn't dieting i got really use to ...http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlThu, 08 Mar 2007 01:29:39 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlConnie, I can see doing this diet and being a JUDDDer myself I am really happy that it taught me a lot of things. My problem on JUDDD is that on Feb 2 I weighed 186 and today I weigh 186. Not that I didn't lose but that I keep gaining and losing the same 3 lbs. I think JUDDD is like a bootcamp for dieters. Some do really well on it and it makes you feel energetic and happy but for a lifetime extra low calorie dieter, I don't want to eat normal calories on my up day because I am afra...http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlThu, 08 Mar 2007 00:44:44 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlOk, thank you everyone for your input. As many of you know i was on the JUDDDD diet for five weeks. as a side effect of that diet, eating more than 600-700 calories make me feel really bad. I can't seem to controll myself on my updays. I had 600 calories on Monday, Tuesday, and today. And it didn't bother me at all. I really felt good. I know that is diet isn't for everyone, in fact, i started it with my sister and she has already stopped it. I think it only works because I did JU...http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlWed, 07 Mar 2007 23:26:26 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlThat doesn't seem healthy to me - doesn't sound like enough calories on rotation days. Also, there is no mention of the quality of the food you will be eating. Third, what is "return to normal"? What will "normal" be? Lastly, is there any exercise program incorporated with this diet? I don't know, there are a lot of red flags here for me, and it doesn't seem like something that can become a part of an ongoing lifestyle. I am just so "anti-di...http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlWed, 07 Mar 2007 14:03:46 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlwell let us know how you get on. The diet doesn't sound like it would suit me, all that calorie counting for weeks on end, at least JUDDDD I get a day off from it every other day. Still, nonetheless good luck with it and keep us updated with how it goes.http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlWed, 07 Mar 2007 13:42:18 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlQuoting: conchacowantwo to four weeks off the diet ( eat like normal) I don't mean to be rude, but that sounds like a disaster of a plan. If you are going to return to your old eating habits, you'll return to your old weight.http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlWed, 07 Mar 2007 13:12:28 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlSeems like a great way to really screw up your metabolism. You put your body into starvation mode, so that it preserves its fat and gets all its energy from your lean muscle mass. Then you load on the calories, which go to fat as well. I bet people who actually reach their target weight on this diet are skinny and flabby at the same time....http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlWed, 07 Mar 2007 04:43:59 +0000http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlI am trying the Rotation diet, where for three weeks you follow this pattern 3 days 600 cal 4 days 900 cal 7 days 1200 cal 3 days 600 cal 4 day 1200 cal two to four weeks off the diet ( eat like normal) if more weight loss is need do over. I would love to hear if anyone has tried this. thanks Connie...http://www.traineo.com/9_1749_0.htmlWed, 07 Mar 2007 04:18:07 +0000