I am trying the Rotation diet, where for three weeks you follow this pattern
3 days 600 cal
4 days 900 cal
7 days 1200 cal
3 days 600 cal
4 day 1200 cal
two to four weeks off the diet ( eat like normal)
if more weight loss is need do over.
I would love to hear if anyone has tried this.
thanks Connie

Seems like a great way to really screw up your metabolism. You put your body into starvation mode, so that it preserves its fat and gets all its energy from your lean muscle mass. Then you load on the calories, which go to fat as well.

I bet people who actually reach their target weight on this diet are skinny and flabby at the same time.

I don't mean to be rude, but that sounds like a disaster of a plan. If you are going to return to your old eating habits, you'll return to your old weight.

well let us know how you get on. The diet doesn't sound like it would suit me, all that calorie counting for weeks on end, at least JUDDDD I get a day off from it every other day. Still, nonetheless good luck with it and keep us updated with how it goes.

That doesn't seem healthy to me - doesn't sound like enough calories on rotation days. Also, there is no mention of the quality of the food you will be eating. Third, what is "return to normal"? What will "normal" be? Lastly, is there any exercise program incorporated with this diet?

I don't know, there are a lot of red flags here for me, and it doesn't seem like something that can become a part of an ongoing lifestyle. I am just so "anti-diet". I wish you luck with it though, and maybe you will prove me wrong.

Ok, thank you everyone for your input. As many of you know i was on the JUDDDD diet for five weeks. as a side effect of that diet, eating more than 600-700 calories make me feel really bad. I can't seem to controll myself on my updays. I had 600 calories on Monday, Tuesday, and today. And it didn't bother me at all. I really felt good. I know that is diet isn't for everyone, in fact, i started it with my sister and she has already stopped it. I think it only works because I did JUDDDD. I got my body use to 500-600 calories. And I really feel better like this.

Anyway I gave in and weighted myself today, just to see what has happened. I was 234 when i started and now 228. that is pretty good. on tuesay I worked out for an hour and I did my dance video for an hour tongiht.

As for it 'screw up your metabolism' I don't think it will. It is not be JUDDDD spread out. instead of dieting every other day, i am dieting every of three weeks. Also you slow your metabolism you have to lower your calorie intake and keep it that way for more than seven days. that is way the diet has you change calories and never stay at the same calorie intake for more than seven day.

I am sorry none of you like this diet. So far I have had success and after JUDDDD it dosen't bother me to eat that few of calories. So I am going to keep trying it.

Connie,
I can see doing this diet and being a JUDDDer myself I am really happy that it taught me a lot of things. My problem on JUDDD is that on Feb 2 I weighed 186 and today I weigh 186. Not that I didn't lose but that I keep gaining and losing the same 3 lbs. I think JUDDD is like a bootcamp for dieters. Some do really well on it and it makes you feel energetic and happy but for a lifetime extra low calorie dieter, I don't want to eat normal calories on my up day because I am afraid I'll gain and I do.. My body is in starvation mode and I'm getting nowhere. I'm going to try to eat 2000 calories on a couple of my up days and then see how I do. If I gain I may see you over here.
Bug

Bug,
Hi, I know how you feel. I think you are right, it is a bootcamp. How do you feel on your downdays, like you are really hunger or do you feel good? I know that i always felt better on downdays. I am just finishing my last 600 cal day and it wasn't bad. I like it because i don't have to worry about what i eat, I have a yogurt for breakfast, salad and cup of veggie soup, and dinner is some frozen dinner. and that really works for me. When i wasn't dieting i got really use to snacking all the time. I would be putting food in my mouth all the time.
I can't believe it now that I can only eat three times a day and fun good. I think that JUDDDD was the reason for that. I just wish that i could lose weight on JUDDDD.
A lot of people tell me that 8 lbs in five weeks is a lot of weight to lose, and they are right, but as we all know the first weeks is when you lose the most, then you lose weight slower and slower. I would take me FOREVER to lose 100 lbs. I want to lose weight so I can have another baby. I had a lot of problems during my 1st pregnat because of my weight. so that puts a time limit on my weight loss. I want to be at least 50 lbs lighter in a year and then I can start to try and get pregnant.
I can wait.
Thank you Marie, I really need someone to understand were I an comeing from.

Ok I weighted in again today, I know I said I would wait until the end of the week but, i couldn't, I started on Monday at 234 and today I weighted in at 226 wow, it would take another five weeks on JUDDDD to get this far. I know that i will not continue to lose weight this fast, but right now it feels great.

I had 4 up days trying to break the starvation mode that I got myself in. I am up at the top of top of the 3 lbs I keep losing and gaining. Feb 2nd I weighed 186 and today I weigh 187. Five weeks and I gained a lb. But I didn't gain yesterday or today. You know I probably would lose better on the rotation diet. I may do that. Right now I'm idling until my body forgets I'm dieting. Your family is darling. Just keep on doing whatever works for you, I am glad it's working for you. Good luck and keep me posted on how you are doing. I hadn't been over here for a few days.

connie, it sounds like it's working for you and that can only be a good thing keep up the good work

My professor did a diet like that where he was essentially not eating enough to get through a day. He ended up getting lightheaded whenever he stood up. He was very irritable with us as well, which made spending classes and outside time with him almost unbearable. And the worst part is, as soon as he went off the diet and started eating regularly again (and by regularly, I mean really very healthy) he gained all the weight back plus some because his body was so used to starving. I would be very very careful with any diet that tells you to eat only a couple hundred calories in a day. That sounds very dangerous to me. There's a reason your body wants more - it needs it to continue functioning correctly.

Not to worry! There are very few of us that only eat 200 on a down day. If the professor had been doing his off days right he would not have felt that way. Different people do it differently. What works for one may not work for another. The down days are my easiest days. It takes a little time to figure out ways to beat the hunger, no need to get cranky...Maybe he was only having super low days??? And no up days...maybe not drinking enough water??

Hi everyone, I have been very busy with well life. But it has been a week and the results are great. I am very happy with my decision to switch. I think that after a few weeks of the rotation diet i will go back to JUDDDs for a break. The first week was really easy. It was even easier to see everyday that I had lose another pound and another pound and another pound.
i am having only one problem with the rotation diet, and it is the same problem i had with JUDDDD. I am now on my 2nd week and I am allowed 1200 cal. But it seems that when ever I am giving the chance to eat more than 600-900 calories i overdo it. I can eat only 1200, I just go over board. But I can easily eat 600 with out the sightly deriser to over eat. I don't know whats wrong with me.
I know that I have to go on the 1200 cal for this week in order to not slow my metabolism down, but I am scared that I will overeat too much and will end up feeling like $&*&*@!@#.
I don't know what to do. I did over eat today. I had a very low calorie breakfast and at lunch I wasn't hungry but I know that I had to get to 1200 calories so I forced my self to eat a tuna sandwich. and then I was only at like 500 calories and it was 3:00 pm so I had a 1/2 of a chocolate bar and then I was like hooked on the sugar, I got home and my daughter had chips and I had a handful of them and then I have a fruit roll up and then I had another one and then I had mac n' cheese and then I had an orange and then I had some graphs, and the list goes on and on.
I need to find a balance.
I was thinking for this week to get eat like 1000 calories. and see if that works. It's not to much or to little. I will post my results.

BY the way my official weight for the first week on the rotation diet is
STARTING WEIGHT : 234 LBS
AS OF MONDAY 3/12 :225LBS
TOTAL LOST : 9 LBS

I am sorry that you had to have a professor like this, But i find that even on very low calories I don't get light headed. I think that you eat the wrong things when you are restricting your calorie intake, it can lead to be lightheaded. But i eat only healthy foods when I am restricting my calories.
I find that it is only when I am allowed to eat what I want I overeat and that leads to irritable for me.


I agree with you, if your body is telling you it wants more than you should be all means give it what it needs. The problem I have and that most overweight people have is that we can tell what our body is saying. Our body is drowned out by emotion or depression or the thougth of how good really bad food is going to taste.
I am now more in tune with my body, I can tell when I am full and I can tell when I am not hunger. I don't nee to eat the magical 1200 calorie to functioning correctly, I have 100 extra pounds of fat on my body that is fueling my body to help it function correctly.

Thank for you input though, and good luck with school.

Connie,
If you read your post again, where you lost it was that 1/2 chocolate bar. Try not to eat very much sugar, it will make you hungry and give you cravings. I am so proud of you for doing so good on this plan. I have been coasting for 5-6 days but as soon as company leaves I'm trying this. Good luck to you...

Marie,
Thank you for been here for me
I hope you try this diet with me. You are right that stupit chocolate bar, but it tasted soooo good.
I can't wait until this week is over. and I can get back to losing weight.
I don't think I will lose much this week because my calories are so much higher than they were before.
I am scared that that I am going to have a hard time going back to 600 calories after being at 1200 for a whole week. I hope I can do it.
How are things working out for you on JUDDD? I saw you gained a pound but that may be water weight. More importantly how are you feeling, how are your cloths fitting and how is your over all health ?

I am feeling fine. Hardly hungry at all. My clothes are feeling looser but I can't see a lot of loss. My overall health is good, esp. for my age. I see younger people than me who are in such bad shape but I am healthy. Thanks for asking and I'm glad I will have someone on the diet with me when I do it...

Marie, you sound like your really know what you are taking about when it comes to dieting. i am very young but feel like I have been on a deit my whole life and still I don't know what I am doing.

Connie,
How are you doing? I haven't been over here for awhile..Starting Monday I will exercise everyday again. I need to make it a priority...

Ok, everyone I am back in action, My father was very sick, my work was too stessful and I justs need a break. I am starting the Roation Diet on Wednesday 4/25 and I will post every wednesday with my wieght in.

Connie

I am sorry to hear about your father and your work being stressful. I know when I diet I have to totally concentrate on my diet or I can't do it. At least that's how it used to be. Now I'm pretty much in control. I am down to 179 by keeping my calories very low. I had gone up to 190 on JUDDD so this past month I've lost 11 lbs. I am starting to stall out again so my plan is to keep my carbs at 20 or below like Atkins and keep my fiber and my protein up. If that doesn't work I may be joining you on this diet. I think when you start stalling out you need to change strategies. Hope you are doing good and I hate it when people trash out a diet without even checking it out. Good luck!

Bug and Connie!

Hey ladies! I just thought I'd check up on you two and let you know I'm rooting for you both! I hope you're still getting that excercise in and taking care of your bodies! I miss your posts over on JUDDDD, but I'm thrilled to see you're still on this journey! Keep up the great work!

Are you guys kidding?
Just eat the right food groups (mix of whole wheat cereal, vegetables, etc, exercise to burn off what you eat- (not aerobics- just, increasing your daily activity- WALK TO THE SHOPS, PICK THE KIDS UP, GET A PACKAGE)
be happy- and stop obsessing about your weight!!- drop those brainless magazines in the garbage- find a fun way to lose weight- dance- enjoy music- STOP OBSESSING!!!)

I'm gonna go out on a limb here. You're not fat are you, Toni. That advice you gave is what thin people typically think is the one thing that seperated them from fat people.

I'm not fat myself but I know from what I've seen that there are a whole bunch of fat people walking about who eat better than thin people AND do more exercise. It's really not as simple (or as blameworthy) as some would have you believe.

You're little nugget of wisdom sound so simple - so why isn't everyone thin? Or more specifically, why isn't everyone who eats healthily and exercises regularly thin?

Exactly. Well said Heather.

Losing weight is a mysterious event that never seems to be in my realm of control... regardless of how much I move and how closely I monitor what I put in my mouth.

It has left me feeling not only trapped in my body, at times, but downright confused of where I went wrong, how carb sensitive could one person be a still be human, how many grams of protein are healthy for me, if I don't feel like eating much one day is that really going to halt my metabolism and screw up the rest of my week, why do I get so frenzied-hungry when I do a lot of cardio...?

The last thing this weight-puzzle is for me is "plain and simple". Sounding obsessive is easy when I am so full of questions, completely cynical of any plan, diet, or system, and often feeling trapped in my own skin.

So thanks for not minimizing the experience, that's very considerate.

Spoken like one who can eat what they want and not gain weight. If it were that simple I'd be a model already.

Actually I am borderline overweight- I don't eat properly all the time- I don't fit in enough exercise either BUT- I never said in my previous post that this is a simple statement to lose weight- I am just pointing out that it is ridiculous to follow unhealthy diets such as the one mentioned above. If you follow a healthy diet (and I mean learn how to do this- I went to a dietician to learn and I'm a nurse- they have a wealth of info), get enough incidental exercise- then you are healthy- if you are still overweight- that is really ok- learn to dress around it- there is nothing more sexy than an overweight person that has confidence and dresses well!
I am really against ANY diet after it was explained to me by a dietician how bad they are for your body and why you can never lose weight from following one.

Hi. New to traineo but I have been following this thread since it started. I started the Rotation diet almost 7 days ago. It might not be good for you --- as some of your have said --- but I have lost 6lbs already and I am NOT hungry. I found great ready-made foods that have helped me through the first days when the calories were very reduced. I am almost fearful of going to 1200 calories (tomorrow), as I don't want the weight to slow down but I know it is a good break for me and I know I won't gain weight. -> I did this diet in 2002 for 2 rotations and lost 18lbs and kept it off until now eating normally. This Fall and Winter were hard on me and I am an emotional eater. I put on the 18lbs pretty quickly by eating my way to happiness - pizza, ice cream, lattes, cheese breadsticks, more ice cream, oh and chips (big weakness). My sister's wedding is this summer, so I am motivated to lose this!!!! So just to let Connie know --- it's working for me.

Wow, thread necromancy from exactly a year ago; that's impressive!

If it works for you, great, but just be sure that your weight loss is fat and not muscle... most likely, since you've lost 6 lbs in 7 days, I'm going to say that you've mostly lost water and some muscle, probably not a lot of fat. This restrictive a diet will certainly cause you to lose weight, but it's not the weight you want to lose.

I personally don't believe that this type of diet is healthy and that, while the number on the scale may be going down, it's not making you any healthier. I would venture a guess that your body fat % is probably staying the same or, worse yet, going UP because of a diet like this.

Your body burns X calories per day, and that number is heavily influenced by your lean muscle mass: the more muscle you have, the more calories your body will burn, even if you never get out of bed that day. If you keep your body guessing about it's fuel and make it think it's starving it's going to want to lower that number so that in the future so that if energy sources aren't readily available the demand is lower. How does it do that? It sacrifices muscle since fat doesn't require energy or water or nutrients to exist in your body. What does your body do with fat? It keeps it there and actually will try to ADD to your fat stores, so while you're losing weight, you're most likely going to GAIN FAT.

In essence, this type of diet sends the wrong signal to your body, especially since 1200 calories is probably too low for most people anyways, and that's the most calories you'll see during the 3 week cycle of this diet.

People focus too much on what the scale tells them and what's on nutrition labels when the honest truth is that those are the two most misleading sources of information you could go to if you're looking to live a healthier lifestyle. Calories are NOT bad. They are NOT the enemy. Despite the fact that it's been said and contested as "skinny person logic" in this thread, Toni is right (despite the fact that Toni doesn't look active here anymore... no one from this thread looks like they're still around, heh...): if you eat sensibly, don't fill up on empty/junk calories, and exercise, you will look better and lose fat; whether or not the scale goes down is almost completely irrelevant if your body fat is decreasing.

If you need a credibility check, not that I mind posting it because I'm damn proud of my numbers, I've lost 64lbs and 12.5% body fat in less than 4 months and I never did anything like the rotation diet; my calorie intake has consistently been right around 1800-2000 nearly every day (granted it's a my rough estimate, I make an educated guess about how many calories I ate at the end of the day, but the point is that I've been eating genearlly the same amount of calories every day).