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wanita torrance
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# Posted: 4 Aug 2007 01:59


Hi Guys,
Very happy to see most folks are doing so well.
I have been JUDDDing steady for 4 weeks and have gone from 162lbs to 150lbs. My heels have stopped hurting, I have more energy, I fit into clothes I have'nt worn in at least one year, and I look great!


Both my daughters are also 'doing it' and are doing very well!
I live in Kenner LA. and just happen to know a very nice lady who works for Dr. Johnson. I also had Dr. Johnson do my first botox injections about 5 years ago, then followed that a couple years later with several sessions of thermage. He is a wonderful physician and very dedicated to helping people feel good about themselves and getting healthy.

This 'very nice lady' has also been close to our family for many years. About 3 years ago, she came to my daughters' baby shower, looking all nice and slim and trim! She told me Dr. Johnson had taken a year off to write this book, and how she followed the plan herself.


I did try it then, but I guess I was'nt 'getting it'. Well, now, 3 years later, she is even more slim and trim and blonde and beautiful. She is our inspiration for sure! I did all my own research, and I do 'get it' now! And we are all 3 doing it, and it is not a fad diet, like Ms. STARFLY is suggesting. So don't let Miss Debbie-Downer get ya'all down. I will be kind and just say she must have some issues none of us will understand and simply wish her the best. Although I gotta tell you I really am ticked that she called all this a 'fad', she's the one who 'inspired' me to write and do my crab-crab! (I hate typing! LOL!)

Best luck to all of you guys!
Wanita


starla s
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# Posted: 4 Aug 2007 02:16


oh lol you all crack me up. You take such offense to where there should be none taken. I have no issues other than needing to lose some weight, I have a great life, a wonderful husband, and an amazing son, so if needing to lose a little weight is my only issue then ill take it. Im sorry if you all feel the need to be on the attack if someone disagrees with your way of thinking. But i have never purposly tried to discourage anyone. So i called it a fad diet, get over it. It wasnt said just to tick anyone off, it was my opinion, as well as a few others who have posted thier opinons of JUDDDD but dont see you getting all rawled up over thier comments. And please dont let me get you down, cause that is not what i have tried to do.


Beth N.
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# Posted: 4 Aug 2007 13:15


Quoting: wtorrance
I have been JUDDDing steady for 4 weeks and have gone from 162lbs to 150lbs. My heels have stopped hurting, I have more energy, I fit into clothes I have'nt worn in at least one year, and I look great!


That's great, Wanita! Glad to hear it's working well for you!


suesue t
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# Posted: 4 Aug 2007 16:09


Quoting: wtorrance
She told me Dr. Johnson had taken a year off to write this book, and how she followed the plan herself.

Welcome Wanita, How nice to have someone on the inside track. Do you have any idea when this book will come out? Is he writing it now? I am absolutely amazed at the success of this diet for me for basically one reason - this is the one diet I can stick with, come back to ( after vacation), and feel like I can do it forever!!!!!!! Any diet will work if you stick to it and then keep it going to some degree once the weight is lost. I haven't found that until now!!! This is not a fad - it is a way of life!!


suesue t
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# Posted: 4 Aug 2007 16:30


Quoting: starfly
you getting all rawled up over thier comments. And please dont let me get you down, cause that is not what i have tried to do.

Hi there,
You are not the first naysayer on this thread and we did get all "rawled up" with the others too! LOL But I must say, you are one of the kindest. You have made it clear it is not working for you and wished us well.
I think it kinda spices things up and makes us think about the diet more deeply when we have it questioned. We have become quite bonded and do get a little defensive and testy - but I think that goes with the territory whenever you are passionate about anything!!!

I admire you for continuing to post. Those of us who have been at it long term, might be a little jumpy about the word " fad diet". I am realizing they are all "fads" south beach, weight watchers, etc.etc. What is popular and being talked about at the time is considered a "fad". I do think JUDD will as with Weight watchers pass the "fad stage" and become a long term solution to many who struggle with weight and food issues.


Lisa Frank
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# Posted: 4 Aug 2007 17:33


Starla,

It sounds like you are doing well. I am taking a break from JUDDDD for at least a week, and also trying to just watch what I eat. I think JUDDDD is great, but in the end, it may not be for me because I have a binge eating problem. For those who don't have this problem, it can be a very easy and freeing way to lose weight, as evidenced by the successes chronicled here. Apparently there are other reasons why it doesn't work for some people besides my reason, since you said you were eating healthily on the up days. I know some people find the down days too hard.

Anyway, I still feel like a JUDDDDer for the moment, so I just wanted to say that no one means any offense. People are very enthusiastic about this diet, and thus are sensitive to any perceived slight. In the end, we all have the same goal, to lose weight and be healthy, but may take different paths. I hope you continue to do well with your current strategy.

Lisa


Marie D.
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# Posted: 4 Aug 2007 18:38


I was attacked over on Spark people. This girl would not leave me alone. Starla, you are not like this girl. She, too, called it a fad diet and she made other posts about it being bulimic, eating up my internal organs and on and on. I finally got tired of it and told her she was such an antagonistic person and why couldn't she just let it go. At that point the moderator came and pulled the posts. I apologized but she posted that she didn't see why her comments were pulled. If you look at her picture she seems to be just what I think she is. I do not care what diet people are on. Different things work for different people, what I do care about is someone trying to tear down my diet.
The point of these forums is to encourage each other, not tear each other down....


Beth N.
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# Posted: 4 Aug 2007 20:32


Quoting: bug
The point of these forums is to encourage each other, not tear each other down....


Yes, thank you for saying that, Marie. Let's move on, JUDDDD buddies. Onward and downward, that is!


wanita torrance
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# Posted: 6 Aug 2007 02:13


Hi Suesue T. Gosh, I really wish I had a time line on Dr Johnsons' book, but I just don't know. I'll see what I can dig up and let ya know.

I am so excited to hop on my scale this AM and see 149.4, for the first time since Katrina hit New Orleans. I use to 'hang' in the mid-140s prior to all this upset. I had cake for breakfast, I always do on Sunday mornings, and slipped into my skinny jeans. Life is good!

I was diagnosed with MS 7 years ago, but I'm still working as a massage therapist, and have a practice in Louisiana and one in Tucson. (Actually I had symptoms of MS in 1993, while I was working at Tulane Hospital, did'nt know it was an exacerbation, and here I am in the medical field... dumb..so I'm many years into this). I need energy, which this disease robs from a gal !! I find my DDays give me a big boost in energy, so I don't need to take Provigil to keep me going. Both my girls get the same boost.

I hope other people feel just as good on the DD, plus, it's so much easier to do now than it was in the begining, those DDs I mean.

So, everyone stay happy and healthy and post how you are doing. Many people walk a tight rope when it comes to following a plan like this, and negative words can push some folks over to the 'dark side', questioning the path they have taken. The more positive input, by far the better! And I just love to read any hints and secrets about our program! So, keep it all coming!
Toodles!
Wanita


Kayla R
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# Posted: 8 Aug 2007 21:30


I heard of this site on www.judddd.com forums and thought I would join up. I'm also on my-calorie-counter.com. Today is down day numero uno for me on judddd. I'm almost through it, just "dinner" to go. I'm sticking to the "only shakes" for the first two weeks regimen. I think it will be a lot easier to not overconsume by accident. I've been at a plateau with my weight loss for about a month now. I lost five pounds when I initially started watching calories three months ago, but now I'm just stuck. This diet makes sense to me, and I think it's something I'll be able to stick with. Some have said they could see this diet wreaking havoc on metabolism, but I think if anything it sounds like it would increase metabolism. We shall see if this works for me or not.


Kayla R
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# Posted: 9 Aug 2007 03:04


I have finished my first official down day without giving in, fainting or ceasing my work out routine = success! I"m excited to weigh in tomorrow, but I'm not expecting to lose after one day. I'll be thrilled if I do and just fine if I don't. I'm definitely looking forward to my up day tomorrow...mmm food!

If I have a weight loss tomorrow I will post it. If not, I'll post my total loss next Wednesday!


Beth N.
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# Posted: 9 Aug 2007 07:43 - Edited by: banieman


Quoting: kaylarc
Some have said they could see this diet wreaking havoc on metabolism,

Welcome, Kayla! Great to have you here!

I think everybody who sticks with it for a while would say that it doesn't have any sort of negative effect on the metabolism. You're still consuming adequate calories over the course of a week to maintain body functions. You just are eating the calories in a different pattern than you're used to. For example, if you're a woman in your forties and you fluctuate between 2,000 and 500 calories every other day, it still averages out to 1250 per day. That's not starving.

The nice thing is that Dr. Johnson has provided a calculator at his website that will help you determine what calories to aim for. Most people don't need to worry about up day calories at first--but those who have more weight to lose may need to watch calories (or at least watch the types of calories you consume--more fruit, less burgers!) on up days.


Kayla R
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# Posted: 9 Aug 2007 14:52


Two pounds down already!


Sandra Cruz Rodriguez
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# Posted: 9 Aug 2007 17:52


Hi everyone!

I'm new here. I haven't started the diet yet JUDDD, but I'll do it soon (sorry for my mistakes in English, I'm a spanish speaker...) Well, I decided to make my "Downdays" Monday, Wednesday and Friday, and the rest of the days, "Updays"....I have several questions about it.... The first day of the diet will be or must be an "Upday" or a "Downday" which one? and how many days of the week should be "Updays" and "Downdays" I mean, 3 downdays? 4 downdays? 5 Updays? as an example....

Hopefully, you will give me the answers...thanks a lot!!!

Tomorrow, after dinner, I will buy the shakes and a lots of veggies, fruits, whole grains, lean meats, etc. to start the diet on Saturday...


Caribbean Breeze
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# Posted: 9 Aug 2007 20:32


Kayla - welcome and congrats on your weight loss after only 1 day! I'm one that no matter what program I have tried, my weight loss stops after 5-7 lbs. I've lost 8 so far and am hoping more by my weigh in on Saturday. I'm beginning to wear clothes that haven't seen the light of day in forever and am enjoying seeing my shrinking self in the mirror!

Sandra - welcome! It doesn't matter which day you start on. When I found this thread, I read it on a Monday and Tuesday and started it on that Wednesday. My down days are M/W/F with the other days being UDs (Sunday is a medium day).

Good luck to you both!


Beth N.
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# Posted: 13 Aug 2007 03:43


Quoting: MiaDolceBella
Tomorrow, after dinner, I will buy the shakes and a lots of veggies, fruits, whole grains, lean meats, etc. to start the diet on Saturday...


Hi, Sandra! Good luck--sounds like you're off to a great start!


Sandra Cruz Rodriguez
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# Posted: 13 Aug 2007 15:55


Hi everyone...I found an amazing website!!! and there is a lot's of "teams" and theres a team for JUDDDDers...I really feel so great with this site...maybe you know it already...its: www.sparkpeople.com

You have all you need!!! Teams, tools, nutritional tracker (so you don't have to go to fitday.com or other website to track your food)...motivation, support!! the tools that you need to be succesfull in your journey to weigh lost...!!! Blessings!!

I hope you'll like it!! remember: www.sparkpeople.com


Heather C.
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# Posted: 13 Aug 2007 16:12


Quoting: MiaDolceBella
I hope you'll like it!! remember: www.sparkpeople.com


sorry but that post made me laugh. It sounds just like a commercial, even repeating the 'product name' at the end.


Heather C.
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# Posted: 13 Aug 2007 16:18


I think Marie has a group on sparkpeople called 'friends of Dr Johnson'. I used to be on sparkpeople but I didn't like their calorie tracker. It seemed to be mroe about junk (or commercially prepared) food whereas on calorie-count i find it easier to find raw ingredients for things and their recipe tool is easier to use. The exercise tracker isn't all that accurate though (traineo's is better)

Sparkpeople does have a nice-looking layout though and nice people on there. I like the tickers you can have in your profile so people can see how far you've come in weightloss.


Beth N.
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# Posted: 15 Aug 2007 07:35


I love the JUDDDD buddies group right here on traineo. You are so supportive, and that's fantastic. I really enjoy getting feedback, ideas and help here.

Before I started with traineo, I had purchased some software online from calorieking.com. They also have a nice website where it's quite easy to look up nutrition information, and that's a free service.

Now, with JUST calorieking, I had not managed to maintain the little weight that I did lose in the period of a year by counting calories. However, the combination of calorieking, traineo support, and the JUDDDD plan, I've lost 31 pounds and I'm SO excited!


Barbara Reilly
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# Posted: 16 Aug 2007 17:52


Dear Judddd friends,

I am new to this diet. I am on my DD #3. I have lost 4.5 lbs. This is like the answer I've been looking for. I just have a couple of questions.

On my up day I can have 2016 calories. The plan says to not worry about these calories but if I don't eat enough it could stop weight loss and if I eat too much it could cause weight gain. What do you suggest? Keep right to the 2016? I have found that I can stick right to the DD 500 calories. I found a shake called AdvantEdge for 100 calories. Sometimes I put it into the blender with ice and it's like a real shake and tastes good too. The tip about eating after 12n really helps. Thanks.
Also I notice some folks have 2 UD in a row. But I am just continually going day after day 1 up 1 down etc. Is this correct?

This a great plan and a great site.

Thanks so much and good luck to everyone.

Barb


Lisa Frank
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# Posted: 16 Aug 2007 18:33


Hi Barb, and welcome!

You don't have to eat 2016 calories, especially if you don't feel like eating that much. You can regard that number as an amount not to exceed, but certainly, eating more than you want to on up days seems like the "intentional overeating" that Dr. Johnson advises against. As long as you're eating a reasonable amount on your up days and sticking to the calorie target on down days, you should lose weight. Eating too much on the up days, however, definitely slows or stops weight loss altogether, as I can attest!

If your schedule permits a strict alternation of up and down days, that's probably the quickest way to lose the weight. Many people find that having a down day on the weekend is inconvenient, and so have adopted a schedule such as M, W, F down days, Tu, Thu, Sat, Sun up days. Or variations on that theme. It seems that if the up days are not excessive, people still lose weight. I have reluctantly admitted that two weekend up days in a row works best for me, because then I can plan in advance, but that at the same time, I did better with the strict alternation. One way to address this problem is to have one of the double up days be a "medium" day, which would be an average of the up and down day calories. For me, that would be about 1350 calories. However, that seems to take the most planning of all!

4.5 lbs is a great start!

Lisa


suesue t
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# Posted: 16 Aug 2007 18:33


Hi Barb,
Welcome! You have the basics down! Doing the shake is very successful for many. I have really tried to stay to the upday/downday cycle when I am really in the groove. However, many are doing 2 up days in a row and establishing a predetermined plan for example M/W/F/ - down and the rest up or whatever. When I did do the 2 updays in a row, I did notice a small slowing in my weight loss. For me, it is all in my head one day I eat - one day I don't. I have had to make adjustments to allow for special events etc. But one week I looked at the calander and realized everyday there was something food orientated - some of these I just bucked up and went through on a dd!!! I felt so good afterwards and the next day had a special meal to look forward to as well!

Welcome, and be sure an join the JUDD group here at Traineo - there are lots of great threads over there.


Barbara Reilly
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# Posted: 16 Aug 2007 19:11


Thanks Lisa and SueSue for your replies. This helps a lot.


Beth N.
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# Posted: 17 Aug 2007 07:27


Welcome, Barbara! Very glad you could join the group and, wow! 4.5 pounds is fantastic! Hooray for you!!!!


Dean Grimshawe
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# Posted: 17 Aug 2007 15:16


This diet isn't that new at all, and yes there are many reasons why it should work absolutely fine. Bodybuillders frequently carb cycle when cutting their bodies up for competition. Again this involves consuming excess one day (to speed up metabolism), then slashing calories another day to cash in on the increased metabolism and burn fat. By removing all routine from the diet, the body doesn't know whether it is coming or going and becomes operationally active getting it fighting fit.

The only thing to remember is top athletes use it as a cycle to shred excess pounds on a given phase. It may not be suitable as a long term lifestyle.


Beth N.
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# Posted: 19 Aug 2007 02:52


Hi, Dean!

Are you trying the diet yourself, or just commenting?

If you're interested in science at all, you might like to join the JUDDDD group and check out the "science stuff" thread--some great links to research carried out on the very topic you raise, i.e., the long-term lifestyle effects of alternate-day calorie restriction. There are some excellent benefits!


Dean Grimshawe
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# Posted: 20 Aug 2007 11:01


Hi Beth,

I can definitely understand why this could be a long term diet, and yes I would be interested in looking up the group you mentioned and checking out the science.

However, the reason I made the comment that I did was because like many people I train in cycles and am constantly reviewing my goals and plan of attack. Certain cycles will not benefit from me eating in this fashion, and yes I have tried most diets out there as each of them has an application for someone at some point in time.

It's just horses for courses. Body builders use this technique to cut up for the last 12 weeks or less prior to competition. They couldn't achieve the physiques, goals and aspirations they have by doing this all year round. Same with performance athletes looking to peak at a given point. However, for someone who doesn't have these aspirations and is looking for a way to control their weight while going about their daily business, then why wouldn't this work. It just comes down to what you are trying to achieve, and my opinion was from a training , performance and results perspective. Even so, their has to be a stable core to the diet if used long term to ensure the body is getting what it requires from a nutrition point of view, as personally I am not a big advocate of calorie counting.


Beth N.
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# Posted: 20 Aug 2007 20:05


Quoting: wayofthewarrior
It's just horses for courses. Body builders use this technique to cut up for the last 12 weeks or less prior to competition. They couldn't achieve the physiques, goals and aspirations they have by doing this all year round. Same with performance athletes looking to peak at a given point. However, for someone who doesn't have these aspirations and is looking for a way to control their weight while going about their daily business, then why wouldn't this work


Okay, I get it. Thanks for the explanation. Not a body builder or pro athlete myself (hah!), so that means my goals would be different from yours.


Dean Grimshawe
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# Posted: 21 Aug 2007 09:53


In fact my only concern would be the long term effects on the stress factor. To cut a long story short your body goes into a state of stress when consuming too much sugar and the constant constricting/dilating of the arteries could lead to damage of the arterial walls, which in turn could lead to a bad heart. I won't go into loads of detail about how that happens but the stress on the arteries does carry a potential risk.

In light of this I would recommend that participants pay close attention to their antioxidants, typically Vit C to keep their artery walls in good condition.


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