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Matt A.
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Matt A.
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# Posted: 18 Jun 2008 06:56 - Edited by: vashts121
I just bought this a few days ago. I bought it because it has lots of different tea extracts which I know help a variety of things, including weight loss. My question is is this safe? I am always cautious towards these types of products, where they mix a bunch of things known to aid in weight loss, but it's all natural so can't be too bad (I think). Here is the nutrition facts, and a little excerpt from their website about it:
An extreme formula designed for anyone who is serious about getting into top shape.* CLA is well-known for supporting body composition and is provided in the same form used in several clinical trials.1, 2, 3 Body Fortress Super CLA Lean is further enhanced with a cutting-edge Thermogenic Blend designed to help ignite your metabolism.*
Super CLA Lean Benefits
* Thermogenic Blend stimulates both mind and body to boost energy while sharpening mental focus.*
* Can be used pre-workout to enhance training performance and on off-days to support body composition.*
* Contains a synergistic blend, including Green Tea with EGCG, Guarana, White Tea and Caffeine, designed to help burn calories and ignite your metabolism.*
* Utilizes only premier quality CLA from Tonalin - don't accept limitations!
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Imran Chaudhry
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Imran Chaudhry
Tired of being tired....Tired of not reaching my full potential. School for the last two years has defeated me. Memories of the past have defeated me. Its time for a change and there are going to be no excuses....Only 20 years old....Get Ready for the Change.
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# Posted: 18 Jun 2008 07:12 - Edited by: Immie
alright CLA shown limited studies where it actually promotes lean mass, and fat loss. However, it doesn't have enough backing (trust me I asked my food and science technology prof about this). There haven't been enough studies to consider it valid though. If you do take it, from my understanding it does promote increased fat in the liver (I would read national journal of food science or something credible.
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Matt A.
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Matt A.
Nothin to say, I'm 17 and losing fat/gaining muscle is easy with time. :)
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# Posted: 18 Jun 2008 23:11 - Edited by: vashts121
A quick google search on cla shows many trials, and supports evidence of weight loss, and cla being present in dairy products. WebMD has a quick summary of CLA.
One group of overweight women lost 9% body fat in one year's time. Not bad, since they didn't change their lifestyle or eating habits.
The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition is mentioned in the WebMD article, so I pursued the study and found it. They concluded after a 6-month trial that it does aid in weight loss.
Louisiana State University also did a study
This is an early study done on CLA effects on mice by Louisiana Stat University. They fed several groups of mice CLA for 12 weeks, and each group received different amounts of CLA. Here's what they found after 12 weeks:
Mice that were fed no CLA had 9.9g of body fat
Mice fed 0.25% of CLA as part of their diet had 9.3g of body fat
Mice fed 0.5% of CLA as part of their diet had 7.5g of body fat
Mice fed 1% of CLA as part of their diet had 5.7g of body fat
Conclusion of their research: Supplementing CLA helps reduce body fat, and higher doses of CLA helped reduce more body fat.
I know humans don't have the same composition as rats, but I think this shows that CLA does do something to fat specifically.
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Imran Chaudhry
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Imran Chaudhry
Tired of being tired....Tired of not reaching my full potential. School for the last two years has defeated me. Memories of the past have defeated me. Its time for a change and there are going to be no excuses....Only 20 years old....Get Ready for the Change.
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# Posted: 19 Jun 2008 05:40
again there are not enough studies which is why many pharmacist and food and science technology experts haven't approved of it yet. If your taking it make sure you research the side effects.
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Matt A.
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Matt A.
Nothin to say, I'm 17 and losing fat/gaining muscle is easy with time. :)
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# Posted: 19 Jun 2008 05:43
It's basically caffeine and tea extracts so I think it's pretty safe, I just don't know how well it goes with my other supplements like protein and beta carotene
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Imran Chaudhry
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Imran Chaudhry
Tired of being tired....Tired of not reaching my full potential. School for the last two years has defeated me. Memories of the past have defeated me. Its time for a change and there are going to be no excuses....Only 20 years old....Get Ready for the Change.
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# Posted: 19 Jun 2008 06:18
wait CLA is not just caffeine and tea extracts........
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Matt A.
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Matt A.
Nothin to say, I'm 17 and losing fat/gaining muscle is easy with time. :)
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# Posted: 19 Jun 2008 06:42 - Edited by: vashts121
I meant the Bodyfortress Super CLA, and apperantly CLA is in milk so I think it's safe.
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Keith A
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# Posted: 22 Jun 2008 16:03
CLA is present in milk (and red meats), but not in anywhere near the doses you'll find it in supplements. (If I recall, the average American gets around 0.2g per day, whereas the supplements generally provide 3.4g or so.)
I'm not telling you CLA is or isn't effective, or that it is or isn't safe. But when you're evaluating supplements, always look for studies that evaluate the efficacy and potential side effects in humans--not rats, pigs, etc. And always pay attention to the dosage mentioned in the studies.
As expensive as most supplements are, it seems like a poor investment (and potentially risky) unless they're proven safe and effective in humans.
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Matt A.
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Matt A.
Nothin to say, I'm 17 and losing fat/gaining muscle is easy with time. :)
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# Posted: 2 Jul 2008 08:56
Quoting: bosden
As expensive as most supplements are, it seems like a poor investment (and potentially risky) unless they're proven safe and effective in humans. The bottle only cost me $8, and it also has lots of tea extracts and caffeine which are known to aid in fat loss (via speeding up metabolism). I was just curious about the CLA part of the pills.
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Chris Lorenzini
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# Posted: 24 Jul 2008 17:21
I have been attempting to use CLA for the last 2 weeks or so. The only problems I have seen are when I first started using it, I got a headache, but that lasted 2 days. Otherwise, I can tell a slight slimming of the stomach. Again I have only been on it for 2 weeks. My plan was a month and I was going to see where I was at. I will keep you updated
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Matt A.
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Matt A.
Nothin to say, I'm 17 and losing fat/gaining muscle is easy with time. :)
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# Posted: 24 Jul 2008 17:54
I'm taking Tonalin CLA now too, 5 pills because the studies I mentioned said it was effective against the placebo group at 3.5g. I also noticed my stomach shrink when using the Bodyfortress brand. The Tonalin CLA is supposed to be straight CLA, with 750-830mg of CLA.
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