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Spyke M
Fitness Guru Posts: 387
Spyke M
http://anotherfatguy.wordpress.com/ I'm looking at a total weight loss of over 130 lbs (60 kg for those of you in Europe like me...), from 150 kg to 90 kg (330 lbs to 198 lbs). I'm a 36 year old man and am REALLY tired of... well being tired.
So far I've been training like a mofo, and have totally revisited my diet - so far so good, 1/3 of my goal HAS been met - YIPPEE!!
Have met some great people here, and looking forward to meeting even more here on traineo - don't be afraid to bombard me with motivation - I'll take all you can give me :)
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# Posted: 17 Apr 2008 11:08
THis is more of a curiosity question than anything else, because I LOVE milk, and drink at least ½ liter every day (protein shakes)
But a lot of people here mention soy milk, and I've never really explored it's benifits. I know a lot of lactose-intolerant people use it, but are there other health-related reasons for using instead of moo-milk?
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Minu ~
The Master Posts: 2592
Minu ~
N u t r i t i o n I g n i t i o n C u l t i v a t i o n E x e r t i o n
One can never be too N.I.C.E.
BELT NOTCHES for 2008:
- Mistressed the PULL-UP! - 2, 1.2km lake swims.
Video of proper Squat form:
http://www.traineo.com/11_5529_0.html
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# Posted: 17 Apr 2008 11:29
I like to alternate between moo-milk, (skim for cereals, 2% for coffee), and soy. I figure with all the studies out there praising or cursing the characteristics of both, I'm good in the between-ness.
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Joe Weierke
traineo Fanatic Posts: 111
Joe Weierke
Started going to the gym 2/2008. Doing mostly cardio / elliptical. I am shooting for looking drastically different by August for my wife's family reunion. My ultimate goal is to be 180 by the end of December.
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# Posted: 17 Apr 2008 13:47
I have never drank any other milk than the real stuff. I am kind of hesitant to try soy milk since the real thing tastes very good.
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Splint Chesthair
Fitness Guru Posts: 471
Splint Chesthair
Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.)
http://splintchesthair.blogspot.com/
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# Posted: 17 Apr 2008 13:56
I don't want my own set of boobies so I don't drink or eat soy. I like rice milk though.
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Minu ~
The Master Posts: 2592
Minu ~
N u t r i t i o n I g n i t i o n C u l t i v a t i o n E x e r t i o n
One can never be too N.I.C.E.
BELT NOTCHES for 2008:
- Mistressed the PULL-UP! - 2, 1.2km lake swims.
Video of proper Squat form:
http://www.traineo.com/11_5529_0.html
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# Posted: 17 Apr 2008 14:16
I still haven't tried this rice milk. Gotta get my mits on some...
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Bourblaster V
Fitness Guru Posts: 337
Bourblaster V
Demystifying the non-mystery, one misguided soul at a time.
squat three times a week
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# Posted: 17 Apr 2008 14:16
before anyone else sets up the false alarm, you would need to consume an overwhelming amount of soy milk to get enough phytoestrogens to have any effect on you man-wise.
Soy is fine, just don't down a ridiculous amount of it.
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Minu ~
The Master Posts: 2592
Minu ~
N u t r i t i o n I g n i t i o n C u l t i v a t i o n E x e r t i o n
One can never be too N.I.C.E.
BELT NOTCHES for 2008:
- Mistressed the PULL-UP! - 2, 1.2km lake swims.
Video of proper Squat form:
http://www.traineo.com/11_5529_0.html
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# Posted: 17 Apr 2008 14:21
Damn, that means my potential do-it-yerself-at-home-soy-boob-job isn't gonna fly...
Oh well, smaller beeeeooooooooobs are a small price to pay for quality-self-arse-kickin'.
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Rachael M
The Master Posts: 2316
Rachael M
I am a triathlete trying to lose some weight so I can improve my times. I love traineo and the very motivational people on here.
Basic info: 5'9", 22 years old, mechanical engineer :)
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# Posted: 17 Apr 2008 14:29
I was just thinking about buying some soy milk last night. I haven't decided if I am going to follow through or not.
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Lilly K
Fitness Guru Posts: 275
Lilly K
started 1/28/08 to change my life via diet exercise...if you're interested, here's my blog about it: http://losinglill.blogspot.com
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# Posted: 17 Apr 2008 14:49
Well, as someone who does not like the taste of cow's milk overmuch, I'll chime in anyway. I have to tell you that soymilk is fine, but don't think of it as milk! If you drink it thinking "milk" you will be extremely disappointed. You have to consider it as a totally new beverage.
It's got a lot of protein (I think a cup of the one I buy has around 9g protein), and it's generally considered low-carb.
Don't know what brands you have over there, Spyke, but I like Silk & Westsoy best. Try the Vanilla flavoured ones first, b/c the regular might put you off of the stuff for good  haha...
Rice milk is also good...less protein, but generally better tasting than soy.
Almond milk is another great alternative to milk (and tastes great on cereal, if you eat that stuff...though again...doesn't taste like cow's milk at all! so be prepared)...doesn't have as much protein as soymilk, but it tastes better and is still low-carb/low-fat.
The sweetened versions generally taste better, but carry the caveat of more carbs. Most brands use evaporated cane juice instead of regular sugar, but I don't know that it makes a big difference.
I never drink the stuff straight, and just use it as a liquid in my smoothies. But then, I can't drink cow's milk straight w/o adding stuff to it to make it taste better.  (mmm...maple syrup in milk!!! *sigh* I miss that...)
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Minu ~
The Master Posts: 2592
Minu ~
N u t r i t i o n I g n i t i o n C u l t i v a t i o n E x e r t i o n
One can never be too N.I.C.E.
BELT NOTCHES for 2008:
- Mistressed the PULL-UP! - 2, 1.2km lake swims.
Video of proper Squat form:
http://www.traineo.com/11_5529_0.html
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# Posted: 17 Apr 2008 15:10
I drink the plain soy milk, but never solo--usually with whey, (I'm into banana-flavor now), and mostly in cereals or shakes.
I so rarely think of doing smoothies either, which is weird, 'cause I love them. I think it has more to do with using my blender, (read: cleaning it ; ), than anything else.
I tend to do them more in the hotter months--iced, which is swell as summer is just around the corner at damnDED last.
I'm going to check out this almond milk too.
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Lilly K
Fitness Guru Posts: 275
Lilly K
started 1/28/08 to change my life via diet exercise...if you're interested, here's my blog about it: http://losinglill.blogspot.com
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# Posted: 17 Apr 2008 15:17
Quoting: Minu I think it has more to do with using my blender, (read: cleaning it ; ), than anything else.
But Minu, they're so easy to clean!  As soon as I'm done making my smoothie, I fill it w/water halfway, add a drop of dish soap, put the lid on and BLEND!! The blender cleans itself and all I have to do is rinse it out
I love my breakfast smoothie...my day just doesn't feel right unless I start it w/a smoothie! (But ya know, it's pretty much summer year round where I live, so maybe that's part of it??) 
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Minu ~
The Master Posts: 2592
Minu ~
N u t r i t i o n I g n i t i o n C u l t i v a t i o n E x e r t i o n
One can never be too N.I.C.E.
BELT NOTCHES for 2008:
- Mistressed the PULL-UP! - 2, 1.2km lake swims.
Video of proper Squat form:
http://www.traineo.com/11_5529_0.html
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# Posted: 17 Apr 2008 15:26
Quoting: lillyk But Minu, they're so easy to clean! As soon as I'm done making my smoothie, I fill it w/water halfway, add a drop of dish soap, put the lid on and BLEND!! The blender cleans itself and all I have to do is rinse it out
I know you're perfectly right, Lilly, but I apperantly just have some 'tarded mental block it seems. I clean mine in seconds too...
I MUST GET ON THE SMOOTHIE BALL!

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Minu ~
The Master Posts: 2592
Minu ~
N u t r i t i o n I g n i t i o n C u l t i v a t i o n E x e r t i o n
One can never be too N.I.C.E.
BELT NOTCHES for 2008:
- Mistressed the PULL-UP! - 2, 1.2km lake swims.
Video of proper Squat form:
http://www.traineo.com/11_5529_0.html
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# Posted: 17 Apr 2008 15:27 - Edited by: Minu
EDIT: Wires crossed, la oops!
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Lilly K
Fitness Guru Posts: 275
Lilly K
started 1/28/08 to change my life via diet exercise...if you're interested, here's my blog about it: http://losinglill.blogspot.com
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# Posted: 17 Apr 2008 15:30
Quoting: Minu I know you're perfectly right, Lilly, but I apperantly just have some 'tarded mental block it seems.
Nah, no 'tardation w/you!  Honestly, I know what you mean...I was the same way before I started doing the smoothie thing every day. "what? I have to use the blender? damn...I'll have to drag it out, then I'll have to clean the damned thing..." haha...it's all good 
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Minu ~
The Master Posts: 2592
Minu ~
N u t r i t i o n I g n i t i o n C u l t i v a t i o n E x e r t i o n
One can never be too N.I.C.E.
BELT NOTCHES for 2008:
- Mistressed the PULL-UP! - 2, 1.2km lake swims.
Video of proper Squat form:
http://www.traineo.com/11_5529_0.html
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# Posted: 17 Apr 2008 15:34
In my defense I at least DO keep it on the counter now, accessible and with far less excuses to avoid employing it, so bully for me!

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Splint Chesthair
Fitness Guru Posts: 471
Splint Chesthair
Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.)
http://splintchesthair.blogspot.com/
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# Posted: 17 Apr 2008 20:53
Quoting: Bourblaster before anyone else sets up the false alarm, you would need to consume an overwhelming amount of soy milk to get enough phytoestrogens to have any effect on you man-wise.
Soy is fine, just don't down a ridiculous amount of it.
Then I'll get some because I kind of like the taste of soy but you're coming with me if I have to get a bra fitting.
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Bourblaster V
Fitness Guru Posts: 337
Bourblaster V
Demystifying the non-mystery, one misguided soul at a time.
squat three times a week
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# Posted: 17 Apr 2008 20:59
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Splint Chesthair
Fitness Guru Posts: 471
Splint Chesthair
Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.)
http://splintchesthair.blogspot.com/
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# Posted: 17 Apr 2008 21:05
I was half-kidding, I had recently skimmed over the subject somewhere but I was actually vegetarian for almost an entire year (yes, it was for a girl) and I ate tons of soy (hotdogs, milk, tofu, cheese) and I never got bewbs.
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Bourblaster V
Fitness Guru Posts: 337
Bourblaster V
Demystifying the non-mystery, one misguided soul at a time.
squat three times a week
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# Posted: 17 Apr 2008 21:06
I hope it was worth it man, sounds like a rough year.
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Stand Up Bean
Fitness Guru Posts: 434
Stand Up Bean
This member has no personal statement yet!
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# Posted: 17 Apr 2008 21:08
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Minu ~
The Master Posts: 2592
Minu ~
N u t r i t i o n I g n i t i o n C u l t i v a t i o n E x e r t i o n
One can never be too N.I.C.E.
BELT NOTCHES for 2008:
- Mistressed the PULL-UP! - 2, 1.2km lake swims.
Video of proper Squat form:
http://www.traineo.com/11_5529_0.html
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# Posted: 17 Apr 2008 21:14
Wait'll you get married, Mr. Bean!

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Splint Chesthair
Fitness Guru Posts: 471
Splint Chesthair
Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.)
http://splintchesthair.blogspot.com/
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# Posted: 17 Apr 2008 21:16 - Edited by: splint
Quoting: tdrinkard yeah, girlfriends suck.
but once you marry 'em they don't.
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Minu ~
The Master Posts: 2592
Minu ~
N u t r i t i o n I g n i t i o n C u l t i v a t i o n E x e r t i o n
One can never be too N.I.C.E.
BELT NOTCHES for 2008:
- Mistressed the PULL-UP! - 2, 1.2km lake swims.
Video of proper Squat form:
http://www.traineo.com/11_5529_0.html
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# Posted: 17 Apr 2008 21:28
*RIMSHOT*!!! 
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Rachael M
The Master Posts: 2316
Rachael M
I am a triathlete trying to lose some weight so I can improve my times. I love traineo and the very motivational people on here.
Basic info: 5'9", 22 years old, mechanical engineer :)
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# Posted: 17 Apr 2008 21:51
Thanks for the article, Bour!
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Kat W
traineo Fanatic Posts: 75
Kat W
"Do or do not. There is no try." ~Yoda
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# Posted: 2 May 2008 04:40
I've turned soy. organic and unsweetened and I can actualyl drink it straight now and enjoy it.. =D
Almond milk is also a new favorite
moo-milk just scares me now..!
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Stina Ebs
Fitness Guru Posts: 208
Stina Ebs
After 2 years of crappy meds that bloated me up 70 pounds and mounds of stress... I am ready to go back to my slim self again! Plus, I want to look good in a bathing suit for my 3 year anniversary vacation in florida :-)
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# Posted: 2 May 2008 07:47
had soy once, almost puked.
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