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Ben Stone traineo Newbie Posts: 6 Ben Stone Well I decided that I had to take better care of myself lately.. and it's been nice.. I've been eating better (all organic, veggies, fruits you know the deal) and for a while I've drank nothing but water or vitamin waters (any slightly sweet drink without HFCS).. Haven't had a pop in two months, hehe that's pretty epic for me! :) That's all for now!	# Posted: 3 Mar 2008 05:22 - Edited by: Vem So I know that you can find any sort of opinion on the internet good or bad.. but I found an article rather a 'book'/essay about how Fiber isn't good for you and doesn't do anything for you.. Now I'm posting because I don't know what to believe anymore.. I know that you can have too much of anything but fiber not being good 'period'? Help!!! edit: Thought I'd add the link to the site for it. http://www.fibermenace.com/dis/transition.html
Dirk Koenig traineo Newbie Posts: 2 Dirk Koenig This member has no personal statement yet!	# Posted: 3 Mar 2008 06:02 If nothing else, fiber helps to lower cholesterol. Liver bile breaks down fats in the gut and then, typically is recycled and returned to the liver. Soluble fiber absorbs available liver bile in the gut and then...ahem...you eliminate it through the...hrrm...normal process. A process that's aided by the non-soluble fiber in your diet, by the way. When there isn't enough bile available (because it's gone with the soluble fiber) the liver gets to work manufacturing more, a process which involves using cholesterol from the blood. Great! So eat your oatmeal... Do you have a cite for this argument? I'd be interested in reading it, since fiber has been a part of our (humans) diet since we started eating. Dirk
Ben Stone traineo Newbie Posts: 6 Ben Stone Well I decided that I had to take better care of myself lately.. and it's been nice.. I've been eating better (all organic, veggies, fruits you know the deal) and for a while I've drank nothing but water or vitamin waters (any slightly sweet drink without HFCS).. Haven't had a pop in two months, hehe that's pretty epic for me! :) That's all for now!	# Posted: 3 Mar 2008 06:08 Aye sorry I just added it I read a bit on it.. and am just concerned I don't like being told one thing then another thing.
Clifford Chinn Fitness Guru Posts: 470 Clifford Chinn Impossible is just a big word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in the world they've been given than to explore the power they haev to change it. Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion. Impossible is not a declaration. It's a dare. Impossible is potential. Impossible is temporary. Impossible is NOTHING. (I freakin LOVED that ad campaign)	# Posted: 3 Mar 2008 08:31 Opinions are like... well something that everyone has :P Especially online; the self publishing model, coupled with anonymity, makes people feel like they have to share their views, whether they're preconditioned yes men or they like to play the devil's advocate. Hell, not two years ago I read an article about how people should stop drinking water. The article was well written, the writer was very articulate but I still walked away from it laughing and comedy wasn't the authors intent. There are a plethora of reasons why people recommend you eat fiber, so I won't go into them, but without reading this article I wouldn't lend it much credence. I'll read it tomorrow at work while I'm waiting on a build, but I highly doubt that anything motivated the author to write about it other than "Look at me! I'm cool and disagreeing with what everyone else says so I can be a noncomformist!"
Minu ~ The Master Posts: 2592 Minu ~ N u t r i t i o n I g n i t i o n C u l t i v a t i o n E x e r t i o n One can never be too N.I.C.E. BELT NOTCHES for 2008: - Mistressed the PULL-UP! - 2, 1.2km lake swims. Video of proper Squat form: http://www.traineo.com/11_5529_0.html	# Posted: 3 Mar 2008 10:56 Stop eating it for a week or two and see what your body has to say about that article. In a word, poop.
THE NEW ME The Master Posts: 2856 THE NEW ME HIGHEST WEIGHT 240 in 2000-2002 HIGHEST BODY FAT MEASURED-44% AT 170 CHALLENGE 1: SEPT 07-DEC 07 -LOSE 10 POUNDS-158-148- achieved new goal-lose another 10 by Dec 15 not achieved-Dec 15-weight 142.5 (total weight loss during challenge= 15.5 pounds) -RUN A MILE- achieved on-NOV 7 new goal-run 2 miles-surpassed new goal-run 2.5 b/w Nov 7 and Dec 15.-achieved -LOSE 5% BODY FAT-achieved CHALLENGE 2 DEC 15-MARCH 15 -LOWER BODY FAT by 5% ( not achieved fully but as of 1/08-need to reevaluate-add muscle instead) -RUN 5 MILES-Achieved on 1/11/07 new goal-6 miles by March 15 at 5.0 speed or 5 miles at 5.5(neither achieved and not goals anymore-may try for fun) -LOSE 10 POUNDS -142.5-132.5 (not achieved but very close- 132.6) 6 month progress -lost 25. 4 pounds -lost 9% body fat -ran 0-5 miles Challenge 3 March 15, 07-June 15 -goals -follow plan by nutritionist and trainer -main goal gain lean mass Daily goals- -follow meal plan and move every day Goal of beating personal best- run a marathon weekly goals -gain muscle to the best of my ability 3 month goals -see above-reestablish every 3 months 12 month goals -maintain all the above goals ultimate long term goal -be fit, healthy and confident with body	# Posted: 3 Mar 2008 11:16 he is trying to sell a product!
jo Cardwell traineo Regular Posts: 63 jo Cardwell Scottish Mountainbiking lady wanting to get faster (and thinner).	# Posted: 3 Mar 2008 12:56 I just read part of that linked article. The guy sound a bit anal to me... Talks a load of Sh*t too if you ask me... (sorry!)
Rob M. Fitness Guru Posts: 442 Rob M. SW: 268 (9/08/08) GW: 185 (4/08/09)	# Posted: 3 Mar 2008 14:18 You could probably find someone online who says breathing is bad for you as well.
Itadaki Mouse Fitness Guru Posts: 814 Itadaki Mouse "Now, here, you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place. If you want to get somewhere else, you must run at least twice as fast as that." -- said the White Queen to Alice in Through the Looking Glass	# Posted: 3 Mar 2008 23:15 - Edited by: Tikbalang Studies have shown that breathing organisms have a 100% fatality rate. So be kind to your pet rocks -- they are destined to rule the world. I often wish I could read Chinese or Japanese. I wonder if Eastern health and fitness experts are as divided as Western ones on such basic health issues. As for me, I think I'll put my money on the smart doctors at Harvard and what they say about fiber, rather than some dude whose medical credentials I can't verify and who publishes a book so far outside accepted medical canon. Specific to the author's (Konstantin Monastyrsky) arguments -- yes, fiber causes the epithelial cells in the intestines to rupture and secrete mucous. This is the natural function of those epithelial cells, which have a lifetime of 1-5 days. From "How Does Fiber Help You?": The constant buffeting of the cells causes mild damage that increases the level of lubricating mucus. Injury at the cellular level promotes the health of the gastrointestinal tract as a whole.
Rachael M The Master Posts: 2316 Rachael M I am a triathlete trying to lose some weight so I can improve my times. I love traineo and the very motivational people on here. Basic info: 5'9", 22 years old, mechanical engineer :)	# Posted: 3 Mar 2008 23:32 Very nice link Mouse!
Megan G Fitness Guru Posts: 265 Megan G I am a slow runner, decent snowboarder, and aim for wiisports rookie of the year. I have strong legs, eastern european calves, and like to lift things my boyfriend thinks I can't. A busy and constantly changing schedule make it hard to get into and stay in a workout routine. I'm a crusader for medical scientific truth in nutrition and weight loss discussions and I heart fiber.	# Posted: 4 Mar 2008 00:50 it's all been said, but yes, to fiber, wtf to that guy. I'm sure you can find on the internet that the world is flat too, but I wouldn't lose sleep over either. medicine/science 1, that guy 0. eat up and poop well.
Ben Stone traineo Newbie Posts: 6 Ben Stone Well I decided that I had to take better care of myself lately.. and it's been nice.. I've been eating better (all organic, veggies, fruits you know the deal) and for a while I've drank nothing but water or vitamin waters (any slightly sweet drink without HFCS).. Haven't had a pop in two months, hehe that's pretty epic for me! :) That's all for now!	# Posted: 5 Mar 2008 04:35 I agree guys And I've generally felt fine and decided that the person who wrote it was sadly misinformed.. At any rate I wanted to share this with the community to make sure I was well informed myself! At any rate.. sometimes if I have a few too many vegetables or fiber I feel a bit bloated and gasey.. I took it that this was normal as now that I'm used to this new diet it hasn't happened much... but sometimes I feel a bit bloated, so I guess that does concern me a little bit. Oh well thanks guys!
Derek Schultz Fitness Guru Posts: 258 Derek Schultz I've always been bigger. Maybe not classified as being fat because I carry it pretty well. But, well, I'm fat. There's no fooling myself. In January, months of hard work paid off as my wife got pregnant with what will be our first child. I had been exercising a bit until that point, but I decided to ramp it up a notch and get my weight to where I can be healthy and be around a long time for my wife and kid. I've been known to drop 40-50 pounds in 5 months or so on a few occasions, only to slowly gain that weight back over a couple years. This time is different. I know everybody says that and usually that statement doesn't come to fruit, but I've got that incentive...becoming a daddy. Got a blog rolling- rokandroll.blogspot.com I post on it a few times a week. Mostly fitness stuff. I try to be somewhat humorous. Check it out if you're REALLY bored.	# Posted: 5 Mar 2008 05:04 I have a poster of the Bristol Stool Chart on my wall for quick reference.
Stina Ebs Fitness Guru Posts: 208 Stina Ebs After 2 years of crappy meds that bloated me up 70 pounds and mounds of stress... I am ready to go back to my slim self again! Plus, I want to look good in a bathing suit for my 3 year anniversary vacation in florida :-)	# Posted: 5 Mar 2008 06:26 Quoting: nutmegs23 eat up and poop well. Here here!
Megan G Fitness Guru Posts: 265 Megan G I am a slow runner, decent snowboarder, and aim for wiisports rookie of the year. I have strong legs, eastern european calves, and like to lift things my boyfriend thinks I can't. A busy and constantly changing schedule make it hard to get into and stay in a workout routine. I'm a crusader for medical scientific truth in nutrition and weight loss discussions and I heart fiber.	# Posted: 5 Mar 2008 19:56 Quoting: Vem I agree guys And I've generally felt fine and decided that the person who wrote it was sadly misinformed.. At any rate I wanted to share this with the community to make sure I was well informed myself! At any rate.. sometimes if I have a few too many vegetables or fiber I feel a bit bloated and gasey.. I took it that this was normal as now that I'm used to this new diet it hasn't happened much... but sometimes I feel a bit bloated, so I guess that does concern me a little bit. Oh well thanks guys! this can happen when you increase your fiber intake, but shouldn't happen too too much if your fiber intake is adequate and consistent.

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