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kenfromco ghje
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# Posted: 12 Feb 2008 10:26


We are always in a hurry. We usually don`t have time to do everything slowly. It`s just the way of living.
But stop and think about your health!!!
Moreover, don`t you want to ENJOY food?
Try to TASTE food. Enjoy EVERY moment eating.

It is not only a pleasant process, it is really useful for our health and prevents overeating.

Here I have found other useful and very SIMPLE to follow tips:
http://flydone.com/?page_id=8

Hope they will help you as well.

Do you have othersimple tips to healthy eating or to lose weighht. Please share them with everybody


Angie H
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# Posted: 12 Feb 2008 14:52


If I really enjoy my food, I overeat. I LOVE tastiness! hahaha Too bad so many tasty things have to be so bad for you.


Cardio King
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# Posted: 12 Feb 2008 14:53


Amen to that Angie


Minu ~
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# Posted: 12 Feb 2008 14:58


THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WHEN EATING

I think bar none theeee most important thing is placing the food squarely in one's mouth.


THE NEW ME
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# Posted: 12 Feb 2008 15:00


thanks for the article


Angie H
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# Posted: 12 Feb 2008 15:06


Quoting: Minu
I think bar none theeee most important thing is placing the food squarely in one's mouth.



Jeff Bristow
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# Posted: 12 Feb 2008 15:50


Someone needs to come up with a way to make the healthy foods taste better than the unhealthy foods. It would make this weight loss and health journey much easier.


Stacy F
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# Posted: 12 Feb 2008 15:57


I read an article that talked aout this very topic. The main point was dont think of food as yummy, delicious, great stuff. Think of it as simple fuel with out the food the machine will stall. All food is to me is fuel. Its easier said than done when I am on the tread mill and that darn Pizza commercial comes on my mouth sweats more then my body.

"ITS ONLY FUEL,ITS ONLY FUEL, ITS ONLY FUEL"


Dave Nicholson
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# Posted: 12 Feb 2008 15:58


My department at work is having a pizza lunch today

Man I love fuel!


Cardio King
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# Posted: 12 Feb 2008 16:01


I had LOTS of sodium filled "fuel" yesterday...


Stand Up Bean
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# Posted: 12 Feb 2008 17:37


Quoting: jeffbristow
Someone needs to come up with a way to make the healthy foods taste better than the unhealthy foods. It would make this weight loss and health journey much easier.

Well, while I've been losing weight, my palette has opened up to things like tomatoes, avocado, guacamole, yogurt, and I find potato chips, candy, sodas, and other things disgusting.

You just gotta start eating the good stuff, then it becomes better, especially when your body associates the good foods with good feelings (success, less weight, more energy).


kenfromco ghje
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# Posted: 13 Feb 2008 17:26


Quoting: tdrinkard
You just gotta start eating the good stuff, then it becomes better, especially when your body associates the good foods with good feelings (success, less weight, more energy).


Completely agree.
Healthy food CAN also be TASTY! There are so many tasty salads made of vegetables or fruits. So many tasty fish dishes. You just get accustomed to healthy food, and your body itself strats to avoid unhealthy stuff.


Sara C
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# Posted: 13 Feb 2008 18:29


Yes Healthy food can be delicious....but I'd rather have a calorie-free oreo mountian to shovel in my face, LOL.


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# Posted: 13 Feb 2008 18:40


LOL @ Sara.

Healthy foods are tasty. What they NEED to be is CHEAPER. Since when does eating healthy mean you won the lottery? Bring the prices down man!


Dave Nicholson
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# Posted: 13 Feb 2008 18:42


Good point... The only way to eat healthy and cheaply is to eat the same, boring foods all the time, without much in the way of veggies... I now spend over $100 weekly to feed just me.


~ Linaeve
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# Posted: 13 Feb 2008 18:59


I agree completely about the costs.. Give me a healthy, quick and cheap meal and that would make things so much easier.


Angie H
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# Posted: 13 Feb 2008 22:26 - Edited by: fauxvirgo


Washington has made it very easy to produce very cheap grains and corn, and expensive to produce fruits and other vegetables. 80% of all government subsidies given to farmers are for corn and wheat, and a mere 10% for fruit. We actually produce more wheat than we need as a country. The excess corn is used as animal forage (did you know cattle won't eat wheat?) and now is being converted to ethanol for fuel. Excess wheat is disposed of by making cheap yet unhealthy junk food (yum, snack cakes!). Being in a lower income bracket doesn't help you at all - to make your food dollars stretch you'll buy some of the worst foods conceivable for your health. Back in the 30's stretching your dollars meant buying potatoes, rice, and bread. Today it means a plethora of inexpensive, tasty processed foods.

The grain industry is going to make very certain that a subsidies shift to veggies and fruits isn't going to happen. Why do you think there are so many grains listed in the USDA food pyramid? Did you know that if everyone actually ate the fruit and veggie servings suggested in the food pyramid, there wouldn't be enough to go around?


Jeff Bristow
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# Posted: 13 Feb 2008 22:31


I was talking about the cost of food last night with my wife. I noticed that in some of the poorer sections of town I see more overwieght people. (I know this is a generalization). I have traveled to a few third world countries and I have to admit that , only in America can you find an overwight person that is poor. But I realized that in America it is often cheaper for someone to grab items off of the dollar menu at McDonalds than to prepare a nice healthy meal at home for their family. That is just messed up!


Stand Up Bean
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# Posted: 14 Feb 2008 15:25


Quoting: Itsmesary
Yes Healthy food can be delicious....but I'd rather have a calorie-free oreo mountian to shovel in my face, LOL.


The point is, I used to think the same way, but now my palette is conditioned, and I think I'd be sick if I ate an Oreo.

When you're evaluating costs, try to remember what regular eating from the dollar menus at your favorite fast food restaurants are going to cost you in doctor's visits when you're older.

It's an investment. Usually in order to get long term gains, you have to have short term losses. Noone in America is happy with that.


Dave Nicholson
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# Posted: 14 Feb 2008 15:38


Quoting: tdrinkard
remember what regular eating from the dollar menus at your favorite fast food restaurants are going to cost you in doctor's visits when you're older.


hehe... actually, the health care industry just released a study showing that smokers and the obese actually cost less because they die before they incur as much expense as healthy people..


Minu ~
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# Posted: 14 Feb 2008 15:44


Quoting: nicholman
smokers and the obese actually cost less because they die before they incur as much expense as healthy people..


Heheh, and----whoa and------ouuuuuch...


Dean Grimshawe
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# Posted: 14 Feb 2008 16:25


Quoting: nicholman
smokers and the obese actually cost less because they die before they incur as much expense as healthy people


What a load of old crap! I don't want to be too harsh but I don't buy this at all. Yes, they do die premature, but that doesn't make them cheaper on the economy. You can prove anything these days through scientific study, then get the government to pay for a whitepaper on it.


Stand Up Bean
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# Posted: 14 Feb 2008 17:16


Um. Link? Practicality to discussion at hand?

Please prove that to me. I don't buy it for a second because I assume my experience is safe to base fact on. I have healthy family members that go on years without seeing a doctor except for check-ups to try and avoid prostate cancer etc. I have other family members that eat horribly, smoke, drink, go on about being depressed, and are constantly sick. Occam's Razor would have me say there is a correlation, and that the correlation is typical of people in general.

You can't possibly convince me that $3/day on cigarettes plus doctor trips, emotional costs of emphysema/lung cancer/whatever to yourself and family, emergency room costs, etc. is cheaper than, you know, not spending all that.


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# Posted: 14 Feb 2008 17:19 - Edited by: nicholman


Sure... London AP - http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5ga6oKHtcxmapjOu PDvrJO0kTnN7wD8UJRCV80

"Lung cancer is a cheap disease to treat because people don't survive very long," van Baal said. "But if they are old enough to get Alzheimer's one day, they may survive longer and cost more."


Quoting: tdrinkard
You can't possibly convince me that $3/day on cigarettes plus doctor trips, emotional costs of emphysema/lung cancer/whatever to yourself and family, emergency room costs, etc. is cheaper than, you know, not spending all that.


Smoking is going to cost ME more than not smoking, that's for sure... From an economical perspective only, though, the cost saved in health care when I die are much more significant.

Quoting: tdrinkard
Practicality to discussion at hand?


Interesting in regards to the comment about the cost of such circumstances.


Stand Up Bean
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# Posted: 14 Feb 2008 17:39


No, that is still irrelevant. I'm talking about personal cost, not even limited to financial. You're talking about the health care cost, and that's AFTER smoking or obesity have become a problem (all those dollars spent along the years on terrible food, gym memberships that didn't provide results, and cigarettes).

And don't forget the fact that your life was worth more along the way when you were living healthily and productively.


Dave Nicholson
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# Posted: 14 Feb 2008 17:40


Quoting: tdrinkard
When you're evaluating costs, try to remember what regular eating from the dollar menus at your favorite fast food restaurants are going to cost you in doctor's visits when you're older.


~ Linaeve
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# Posted: 14 Feb 2008 18:09


This is a round about conversation.. Hospitals and doctors charge the insurance... Insurance charges patients. .. Patients pay taxes to hospitals and their food.. You could say it costs patients more/less... that is different than Hospitals and insurance companies. Hospitals and Insurance will always gain profet because they turn around and charge patients. If they aren't gaining profit they shut down.. just the way business works. So it all depends.

In general, it saves Us money to stay healthy. If we are healthy it will increase the insurance profit margine and decrease the hospital and clinic profit margins...

So it really all depends on how you look at it...


Dave Nicholson
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# Posted: 14 Feb 2008 18:13


Bah, I'm not trying to pick on anyone here, just provide some interesting information. I'd say the relevance at this point is fairly obvious, but if not let me know and I'd be happy to explain it.

In terms of fact, I wouldn't blindly base it on your experience or my own when determining generalizations that represent a population. Facts like the average healthy person lives to 84 years, the average smoker lives to 77, and the average obese person lives to 80 are good groundwork - we eat poorly and we smoke and we die sooner. The other fact is that the thin and healthy group cost $417,000 in health care, the smokers $326,000 and the obese $371,000. You don't even need to draw conclusions from this, they are conclusive in their very nature.

My point was to provide some intesting information that was also relative to the discussion. I failed in that I did not provide the link, not in its relevance


Dave Nicholson
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# Posted: 14 Feb 2008 18:17


Quoting: Linaeve
In general, it saves Us money to stay healthy. If we are healthy it will increase the insurance profit margine and decrease the hospital and clinic profit margins...


Excellent point. What really matters to ME is that I'm spending $5-6 a day on cigs, more co-pays for more Dr. visits, and having less earning potential because I'm dying younger (but I'm still spending a lot more on good food!). From an economical perspective, the 'healthy' person may be more expensive, but I'm paying out of my pocket for my vices and their consequences.


~ Linaeve
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# Posted: 14 Feb 2008 18:20


Quoting: nicholman
From an economical perspective, the 'healthy' person may be more expensive, but I'm paying out of my pocket for my vices and their consequences.


Agreed, completely!


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