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Brian aka "Bags"
traineo Newbie Posts: 3
Brian aka "Bags"
I'm a 30yo guy with a work at home job in IT. My lack of movement and poor diet habits have led me to look more pregnant than my 5 month pregnant wife! We already have a 2yo son who exhausts me on a regular basis and I just need to get healthier.
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# Posted: 9 Jan 2008 04:44
Everything you hear says if you consume less calories than you burn you will lose weight. I understand that and it makes complete sense.
Does it then matter when you consume the calories or what kinds of foods you eat when? I've heard that you should eat your carbs in the morning and slowly taper off carb intake as the day gets later and many other recommendations, but how does that matter when it is calories consumed versus calories burned?
Does your body handle foods differently based on the time of day and your activities of your waking/sleeping time?
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Dean Grimshawe
Fitness Guru Posts: 1182
Dean Grimshawe
I work as a Health and Fitness Coach in England. I am looking to network with dedicated athletes and grow my knowledge in this area. Check out what I do at www.warriorcoaching.co.uk
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# Posted: 9 Jan 2008 10:36 - Edited by: wayofthewarrior
This is a grey area.
The old advice is always eat brekkie like a king, lunch like a prince and dine like a pauper. Then that moved on to 5-6 meals a day, preferrably of equal size with a portion of protein and carbs at each sitting and your 5 a day.
Yes, there is some truth in all of the advice and yes there is some truth about eating carbs early and tapering off. However in my view a lot of it is over rated and doesn't make the difference that people always think.
The body gets good at what it is used to doing and adapts to your routine, so long as you have a routine. I am well read on all of these tricks and I do see the value in them, and the science behind it. My attitude now though is that:
'If you fill your car up in the morning, or fill it up in the afternoon it will have the same amount of fuel in it'
Don't worry too much and just feed your body when it demands to be fed. Notice the patterns and develop a routine around it. My only rules for myself are eat brekkie (stops me fancying something I shouldn't and ties me up till my next planned feed) and post-workout meal (the most important meal ever!). Apart from that I don't have any rules except that it becomes routine and is convenient so I have no excuse not to stick with it.
I know there are lots of texts telling you to eat at certain times and in certain ways, but I believe it is these kinds of distractions that steer people way from their goals.
'Just eat the right stuff, then just do it'
My simple advice
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Minu ~
The Master Posts: 2592
Minu ~
N u t r i t i o n I g n i t i o n C u l t i v a t i o n E x e r t i o n
One can never be too N.I.C.E.
BELT NOTCHES for 2008:
- Mistressed the PULL-UP! - 2, 1.2km lake swims.
Video of proper Squat form:
http://www.traineo.com/11_5529_0.html
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# Posted: 9 Jan 2008 11:04
I agree that THEEE most important part of the equation is WHAT'S going in the tank.
I've messed with a number of different eating plans, some that included breaky, some that didn't, some that even only allowed chowing down within a 5 hour window each day. I lost weight on all of them, as I was careful to eat nutrient-rich, as-natural-as-possible foods, plus tons of H20, of course.
Experiment, see what feels best for you while giving the results you are after.
We're all about the tweaking, IMNSHO.

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Splint Chesthair
Fitness Guru Posts: 471
Splint Chesthair
Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.)
http://splintchesthair.blogspot.com/
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# Posted: 9 Jan 2008 15:39
Here's the thing, people are different. Some people can't consumer dairy. Some people have wild blood sugar levels if they over-carb. Some people will store more fat if they eat before going to bed.
I agree that you need to experiment and record and monitor results. It certainly does matter WHAT you eat, to an extent. If you drank nothing but sugar-water you wouldn't get very fit, although you could certainly reach your allotted calories for the day.
Me, I like to eat about 50% carbs, 25% protein, 25% fat. I try to get good carbs and good fats as a majority of those but I also occasionaly have a few Twizzlers or a piece of homemade pie and I usually eat that as a snack before bed. That's a big no-no for some people. But I've lost weight following that so I haven't seen the need to modify it. If I didn't lose weight, I might have to change that up, eliminate the night-time snack, eliminate thos sugary carbs.
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Minu ~
The Master Posts: 2592
Minu ~
N u t r i t i o n I g n i t i o n C u l t i v a t i o n E x e r t i o n
One can never be too N.I.C.E.
BELT NOTCHES for 2008:
- Mistressed the PULL-UP! - 2, 1.2km lake swims.
Video of proper Squat form:
http://www.traineo.com/11_5529_0.html
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# Posted: 9 Jan 2008 18:30
FWIW, I think a small nutritious snack before bed is generally speaking, fine--provided the snacker hasn't over eaten that day and the intake has been quality.
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Minu ~
The Master Posts: 2592
Minu ~
N u t r i t i o n I g n i t i o n C u l t i v a t i o n E x e r t i o n
One can never be too N.I.C.E.
BELT NOTCHES for 2008:
- Mistressed the PULL-UP! - 2, 1.2km lake swims.
Video of proper Squat form:
http://www.traineo.com/11_5529_0.html
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# Posted: 9 Jan 2008 18:30
And now, I want a snack.

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Dave Nicholson
The Master Posts: 2094


Dave Nicholson
I'm basically trying to get in shape and be healthy...
diaryofthefatman.blogspot.com
I like participating in sports but I want to be more competitive. Also I'm with Kevin Spacey from American Beauty - good reason :)
I'm looking to lose about a hundred lbs in the course of a year, and basically to just consistently get better. And I love comments and messages, so keep 'em coming!
I talk about goal setting a lot, how about I actually set some?
Well it's time to revisit goals... I didn't do too well with my end of year plans, but learned some things and changed my plans up a bit as I went along. During the 5-7 weeks of the year, I was able to put on about 8-10lbs of muscle, and stay at the same actual weight. The plan is to start the Strong Lifts 5X5 program to supplement the Couch to 5K program, and that should last the next 8-12 weeks.
I'm updating goals as well. Lowering cholesterol remains a goal, and I'll find out about that at the end of August.
Been bouncing around a bit, but getting a little stricter again and will monitor that over the next 3-4 weeks. I feel poised to really lose some weight again, so I'm looking forward to the healthy eating and additional exercise.

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# Posted: 9 Jan 2008 19:26
And generally, your body can only process up to about 700 calories at a time, so more than that is a waste and can be converted to excess fat. Which is why it is more efficient to spread your calories out throughout the day.
The reason a lot of general rules come out is that it has to be simplified for people. Do you want to read a few books to learn enough science behind nutrition to come to the same conclusion? Most people don't/won't/can't.
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Itadaki Mouse
Fitness Guru Posts: 814
Itadaki Mouse
"Now, here, you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place. If you want to get somewhere else, you must run at least twice as fast as that."
-- said the White Queen to Alice in Through the Looking Glass
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# Posted: 10 Jan 2008 00:13
I agree with the thought that the kind of food you eat matters more in practice than how much or when you eat.
However, I also think that spacing food intake out has some mild benefits. I almost always skip breakfast, for one. Back when I was faithfully eating oatmeal every morning, that helped me curb my appetite come lunch time *and* displaced unhealthy choices (bagel, hotdog, cheese-filled pretzel -- whatever the local convenience store pandered that morning). My lifestyle makes it very difficult to do 5-6 meals, but at the very least I shouldn't be skipping breakfast.
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Jocelyn Coutant
Fitness Guru Posts: 222
Jocelyn Coutant
i enjoy being active, maybe sometimes too much. i run almost everyday, i walk my dog, bike, play tennis and swim.
i need to control my eating habits and learn to eat healthy again.
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# Posted: 10 Jan 2008 05:11
honestly, i don't know what to say. i was told by a veteran body builder, who is also a nutritionist and a physical therapist, that it doesn't matter when you eat your calories, as long as you got the right amount in by the end of the day.
buttt... i heard from another nutritionist that you should eat breakfast early, and spread out small meals throughout the day.
i think overall it is preference. if you're more likely to be zapped of energy during the day, then start eating earlier, and continue throughout the day, to keep your energy up. if you enjoy eating everything at once and at night, then try that.
just remember that it's what you eat that counts too, and how much
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Ara Bruno
Fitness Guru Posts: 774
Ara Bruno
Not much to say, I like playing video games and watching/playing sports. I work as a web developer for a small company.
I think when I get into shape I want to become a volunteer firefighter.
Goal: Lose 35lbs before Cardio King
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# Posted: 10 Jan 2008 13:38
I work out in the morning, should I eat both before and after the work out?
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Me ForSure
traineo Regular Posts: 31
Me ForSure
One last goal, then I'll say goodbye to traineo.com ! :)
83 kg till April the 1st
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# Posted: 10 Jan 2008 14:51
Depends on how stressful or long your workout is.
When I started running last summer holidays I had no stamina, so i ran only half an hour at the most - so for me it was enough to eat after the workout. (it even felt better to run with an empty stomach)
But over night you "starve out", so if you work out hard it might be better to eat a bit before.
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Aaron Freeman
traineo Regular Posts: 35
Aaron Freeman
This member has no personal statement yet!
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# Posted: 10 Jan 2008 16:20
As a general rule, I do not eat after 10 hours before I wake up the next morning. It keeps my weigh ins in the morning consistent and keeps me from feeling bad OR keeping me up at night. Sleep is unbelievably important when losing weight or burning anything from the time to go to bed until the time you wake up.
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Dave Nicholson
The Master Posts: 2094


Dave Nicholson
I'm basically trying to get in shape and be healthy...
diaryofthefatman.blogspot.com
I like participating in sports but I want to be more competitive. Also I'm with Kevin Spacey from American Beauty - good reason :)
I'm looking to lose about a hundred lbs in the course of a year, and basically to just consistently get better. And I love comments and messages, so keep 'em coming!
I talk about goal setting a lot, how about I actually set some?
Well it's time to revisit goals... I didn't do too well with my end of year plans, but learned some things and changed my plans up a bit as I went along. During the 5-7 weeks of the year, I was able to put on about 8-10lbs of muscle, and stay at the same actual weight. The plan is to start the Strong Lifts 5X5 program to supplement the Couch to 5K program, and that should last the next 8-12 weeks.
I'm updating goals as well. Lowering cholesterol remains a goal, and I'll find out about that at the end of August.
Been bouncing around a bit, but getting a little stricter again and will monitor that over the next 3-4 weeks. I feel poised to really lose some weight again, so I'm looking forward to the healthy eating and additional exercise.

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# Posted: 10 Jan 2008 16:57
The benefits of grazing throughout the day are many, not least among them increased metabolism and more stable blood sugar (reduced cravings).
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Minu ~
The Master Posts: 2592
Minu ~
N u t r i t i o n I g n i t i o n C u l t i v a t i o n E x e r t i o n
One can never be too N.I.C.E.
BELT NOTCHES for 2008:
- Mistressed the PULL-UP! - 2, 1.2km lake swims.
Video of proper Squat form:
http://www.traineo.com/11_5529_0.html
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# Posted: 10 Jan 2008 17:00
I've gone back to grazeland.
My lame-o humor is outta control today!
But, yes, I have returned to smaller, frequent feedings and I do believe that I'm getting more meal-age out of it.
*incredibley underwhelming rimshot*
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Dave Nicholson
The Master Posts: 2094


Dave Nicholson
I'm basically trying to get in shape and be healthy...
diaryofthefatman.blogspot.com
I like participating in sports but I want to be more competitive. Also I'm with Kevin Spacey from American Beauty - good reason :)
I'm looking to lose about a hundred lbs in the course of a year, and basically to just consistently get better. And I love comments and messages, so keep 'em coming!
I talk about goal setting a lot, how about I actually set some?
Well it's time to revisit goals... I didn't do too well with my end of year plans, but learned some things and changed my plans up a bit as I went along. During the 5-7 weeks of the year, I was able to put on about 8-10lbs of muscle, and stay at the same actual weight. The plan is to start the Strong Lifts 5X5 program to supplement the Couch to 5K program, and that should last the next 8-12 weeks.
I'm updating goals as well. Lowering cholesterol remains a goal, and I'll find out about that at the end of August.
Been bouncing around a bit, but getting a little stricter again and will monitor that over the next 3-4 weeks. I feel poised to really lose some weight again, so I'm looking forward to the healthy eating and additional exercise.

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# Posted: 10 Jan 2008 17:14
Ladies and Gentlemen, clever humor has left the building!
:P
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Minu ~
The Master Posts: 2592
Minu ~
N u t r i t i o n I g n i t i o n C u l t i v a t i o n E x e r t i o n
One can never be too N.I.C.E.
BELT NOTCHES for 2008:
- Mistressed the PULL-UP! - 2, 1.2km lake swims.
Video of proper Squat form:
http://www.traineo.com/11_5529_0.html
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# Posted: 10 Jan 2008 17:26
And HUMOR CLEAVER has just entered!

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Dave Nicholson
The Master Posts: 2094


Dave Nicholson
I'm basically trying to get in shape and be healthy...
diaryofthefatman.blogspot.com
I like participating in sports but I want to be more competitive. Also I'm with Kevin Spacey from American Beauty - good reason :)
I'm looking to lose about a hundred lbs in the course of a year, and basically to just consistently get better. And I love comments and messages, so keep 'em coming!
I talk about goal setting a lot, how about I actually set some?
Well it's time to revisit goals... I didn't do too well with my end of year plans, but learned some things and changed my plans up a bit as I went along. During the 5-7 weeks of the year, I was able to put on about 8-10lbs of muscle, and stay at the same actual weight. The plan is to start the Strong Lifts 5X5 program to supplement the Couch to 5K program, and that should last the next 8-12 weeks.
I'm updating goals as well. Lowering cholesterol remains a goal, and I'll find out about that at the end of August.
Been bouncing around a bit, but getting a little stricter again and will monitor that over the next 3-4 weeks. I feel poised to really lose some weight again, so I'm looking forward to the healthy eating and additional exercise.

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# Posted: 10 Jan 2008 17:28
tee hee 
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