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Lee Scott
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# Posted: 12 Jul 2007 10:41


Hi all,

I am a 23 year old male and have been active all my life. I was a keen footballer & squash player but 3 years ago, during a football game i suffered an horrific injury. I snapped my cruciate ligament and put a 2 inch tear in my cartilage. From this point on my knightmare was far from over.

I had ACL surgery and spent 12 months recovering. I then made my footballing come back but after 15 mins i was carried off again as i had snapped my cruciate ligament for the second time. So i had my second ACL surgery in January 2006, after 9 months i was back in gym trying get my knee strong again. I was working hard but as i was no longer active the weight started to pile on.

Some 15 months later i started to play 5-a-side football and squash again which felt great but once again my luck was going to run out and in May 2007 I tore my cartilage and had surgery to remove part of it. I am now recovered from this recent injury and ready to start working in the gym again.

I have been back in the gym for 1 week and have so far lost 1kg. I really need to keep this up as during the past 3 years i have gained an unwanted beer belly and the dreaded "man-boobs". As you can probably tell, all my mates are taking the pi$$ and i think its now time i did something about it.

Any tips and advice are most welcome as i don't really know much about the gym or good work-outs. I have always stayed fit by playing sports and after the past 3 years i am in no rush to start sports again.

Does anyone have any ideas on the best way to lose my beer belly and man boobs and get back to the shape i was in 3 years ago?

Any help would be most appreciated.


Joel Bernardo
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# Posted: 12 Jul 2007 15:18


when you say football, you mean soccer? or american football? at first, when i was reading this, i thought to myself, "why would he play football if he had a previous knee injury?" american football is horrible on your knees.

i think one of my brothers had a similar injury and has given up soccer for life. he's still active, but he's got a little beer belly too. when he graduates this coming spring, he'll be getting back into his workout routine. he does a mixed martial arts workout and HIIT. he already has the muscular mass he wants, so he'll just be cutting the excess fat to reach his ideal weight.

high intensity interval training is great for losing weight. but i don't think it suits you with your knee injuries, so i won't even go into it. there's already a ton of threads with this same topic. it's a little redundant, but i'll post this again with a little modification.

if you're new to weight lifting, it's going to take you a while to find your ideal weight for each exercise. finding your max (the heaviest weight that you can complete one repitition with) will help you plan your routine.

if you can make it to the gym 5x a week, you should start off with just a 2 day split. upper body and lower body. here's an example:

monday: bench press, incline bench, lat pull down, standing rows, sitting rows, pull ups, lateral raises (to the side), lateral raises (to the front), military press. end with bicep curls and tricep extensions.

tuesday[b]: (you might have to adjust this to meet your needs) squat, lunges, stiff-leg deadlift, and leg press. if you're a real gym rat, you can add leg extensions, leg curls, and standing machine calf raises.

[b]wednesday
: same as monday

thursday: same as tuesday

friday: same as monday & wednesday

just alternate weeks. one week, start with upper body, and the next week, start with lower body.

for each exercise, you should do 3-4 sets, starting at 70% of your max, and increasing the weight by 5-10lbs. if 4 sets, start with 12 reps, followed by 10 reps, 8 reps, and 6 reps. if you're doing 3 sets, you can either start at 12 reps, or 10 reps. you'll need a spotter. if you've calculated your max correctly, then you won't be able to complete all the sets. when you reach a point where you can complete them, give it another 2 sessions at the same weight and then recalculate based on your new max.

rest for 2-3 minutes between sets. adjusting your diet is really important, especially if you're trying to lose weight. try to take in more protein, and less carbs.

hope this helps.


Lee Scott
traineo Newbie
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# Posted: 12 Jul 2007 16:04


Thanks for the info Joel,

When i say football i mean "soccer". I really should of made that clear in my first post but being from the UK we don't really use the term soccer.

I continued playing as after my surgery i went to see a specialist and he said i should be OK after 12 months (how wrong was he!!).

Thanks for the training info, I'll give that a go. I got talking to a trainer at the gym the other day and he mentioned interval training being a good way to lose weight. Can't say i have tried it, normally set the treadmill up for about 12-13kph speed and run until i get sick.

One problem i do have is i basically have no muscle mass as have never done weight training before. I was always happy when my weight was just over a stone lighter and i looked "lean" if you know what i mean. I think its time to put a bit muscle on.

Am i right in thinking more weight less reps should build strength and muscle and less weight more reps is all about toning up?


Joshua V
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# Posted: 12 Jul 2007 16:25 - Edited by: Hoofinasia


My routine is a 3 days weights, 3 days training.
I do basically the same thing as above, concerning individual exercises. (3-4 sets, adding 10% each set)

Mon, Wed:
Bench Press
Dumbell Flies
Military Press
Dumbell Shoulder Press
Standing Rows
Decline Rows (Bent over row)
Curls
Tricep Extensions
Figure 8s (a core exercise)
Dips
Lunges

Friday:
Bench Press
Overhead Press
Squat
Deadlift
Power Cleans

Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday:
15 mins Jumprope
20 mins Jogging (about 2.5 miles)
30 mins Heavy Bag / Pad work (boxing)
30 mins Shadow box / Sparring

If you need help seeing what all these different exercises look like, I recommend www.exrx.net
Its a pretty simple, No-BS site with tons of information. Including proper form videos, comprehensive exercise lists, target / synergist muscle diagrams, etc...

Start here:
http://exrx.net/Lists/Directory.html
Look for a target muscle group, then read on...

To track my diet, I use www.calorie-count.com
Its a database of just about anything you could imagine eating, and all you have to do is click "add" and it'll tally your days nutrition and give you a report card at the end. Here's what it looks like, using the meal I just ate. I'll admit, I over-ate by a long shot.



Basically, the information is out there. You just have to get working, on just about anything, and you'll see results. How dramatic the results will be is up to you and your motivation level.

I've noticed some of my "larger" friends who are pretty anti-exercise have changed their life by picking up a heavy bag and jumprope for their basement / garage. Hitting a bag is a good way to sprain your wrist if you don't have a little protection / instruction. But both protection and instruction are pretty easy to get.


Jennifer J
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# Posted: 12 Jul 2007 16:44


Hey Lee...

Welcome to Traineo! I know how you feel. I also have torn my ACL and miniscus playing soccer 3 years ago. Although I'm back to actually running on a soccer field and messing around with the soccer ball I don't have as much courage as you to get back into a real game. It hurt enough the first time.

I would think that cardio would help you lose a good amount of "fat" and then weights would help strengthen your muscles. Just remember to be kind to your knees. No running on pavement. Try bike riding too. That and swimming is what my physical therapist recommened.

Good luck!



Jenn


Josephine McCulley
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# Posted: 12 Jul 2007 16:57


Wow, all those injuries. I sincerely hope you never have to go through that again!

I think Josh and Joel are right on. Unfortunately, weight lifting and individual cardio exercise just plain lack a lot of the great things about sports. Everything that rocks about being on a team, isn't really there. The variety and excitement of being involved in a competitive game with other people is also generally lacking. So I'm guessing that the hard part here for you will be to make exercise enjoyable, even though you're missing these things that you got from playing soccer and squash. Always competing with yourself just isn't as fun.

I think once you find a way to make these kinds of exercise entertaining enough for you to keep with it, you'll be back in business. Perhaps you can get one of your friends to lift with you? Or maybe an audio guided workout like PodFitness would do the trick? Better yet, maybe there is another sport out there you can learn to love that won't be so hard on your joints. I don't know much of anything about the injury you've described, but maybe rowing, cycling, or martial arts would be right up your alley.

Whatever the case, welcome, and best of luck!


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