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Monique Kamosi
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 # Posted: 6 Feb 2008 17:48


I hope everyone voted!!!
Dave Nicholson
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 # Posted: 6 Feb 2008 17:49


if you're registered independent, can you vote in the primaries in CT?
Monique Kamosi
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 # Posted: 6 Feb 2008 17:50


I just looked it up, and no you can't. But you can go and change your voter registration for the election and then change back.
Dave Nicholson
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 # Posted: 6 Feb 2008 17:51


I wish I were that ambitious. It will be hard enough just to get me to vote, knowing that it won't really matter


Rob M.
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 # Posted: 6 Feb 2008 19:34


We showed up at the voting place and couldn't vote. My wife got our registration in time but for some reason it wasn't there on the person's list.

My questions is:
If you are over 18 and a US citizen, why can't everyone vote? Why do we even need to be registered. They always complain about the lack of people coming out to vote, yet when a hardworking American like myself who got his registration in before the due date they still won't let ya vote.

It angers me and I will probably take a year off of voting, lol.
Jeff Bristow
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 # Posted: 6 Feb 2008 19:37


Quoting: RMontgomery
If you are over 18 and a US citizen, why can't everyone vote?


I agree. They need to create a system that allows citizens to vote as long as they are of voting age. Nobody should need to register to exercise their right to vote. I think the only real reason that you need to register, is because we do not currently have a system that can verify that you are an actual citizen. Currently the social security card nor a drivers license verifies citizenship, so they have a voter registration process. Hopefully this can change in the near future.
Dave Nicholson
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 # Posted: 6 Feb 2008 20:10


bingo, though I think the SSN does indeed verify citizenship...
Rob M.
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 # Posted: 6 Feb 2008 20:13


All I know is that I was all excited to go out and vote and got turned away and I feel like certain people would stop voting all together if something like that happened. Of course I will call and find out what happened but I feel like the majority of American's would just say, "oh well, I tried".
Dave Nicholson
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 # Posted: 6 Feb 2008 20:18


That is strange.... I registered same day last time and was able to vote...
Rob M.
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 # Posted: 6 Feb 2008 20:22 - Edited by: RMontgomery


Ours said it had to be postmarked by the 16th, which ours was, and when they looked up our house the only person there was the old owner. I told them that we bought that house and that guy no longer lives there, but our names were nowhere to be found.

I am kind of glad we didn't get to vote because my wife was going to vote for Hilary Clinton.

Although it doesn't matter now because she already won Massachusetts.
Brandon B.
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 # Posted: 6 Feb 2008 21:01


Chicago runs my state, it doesn't matter who I vote for, although I still go vote.
Dave Nicholson
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 # Posted: 6 Feb 2008 21:18


I'm surprised MA went Hillary w/ the kennedy's endorsements for Obama...

Doesn't much matter what I vote in CT anyway, this state always goes to the democratic candidate...
Monique Kamosi
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 # Posted: 6 Feb 2008 21:44


SS# does not verify citizenship -- my husband is a permanent resident, and has a green card, but is not a citizen and therefore cannot vote.
Another Dave (formerly Release the Hounds)
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 # Posted: 6 Feb 2008 22:18


if the convention is brokered, we will be in for some extremely interesting political drama. i would be totally stoked just to see how it played out if i didn't feel the stakes were so high and if i hadn't already gotten emotionally attached to obama.
Ara Bruno
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 # Posted: 6 Feb 2008 22:24


I am glad many of you are also interested in the politics of the United States.


Cardio King
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 # Posted: 6 Feb 2008 23:07


Texas' primary isn't until March...we'll see if they let me vote though. Some mess about having to re-register if you move to a different county. UGH!!! I'm in the same d*mn state!
Brandi Mazies
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 # Posted: 6 Feb 2008 23:53


Quoting: lglcctj
Texas' primary isn't until March...we'll see if they let me vote though.


I just moved to Texas from Chicago in July and registered to vote when I got my license. Is that all I need to do, I wonder? I have never voted before. It never interested me. But, after the way the country has been ran in the past decade? I can't wait to vote...

Also, I can't see how anyone would want to vote Clinton for the mere fact that IF Clinton won the election, does anyone in the U.S. realize that it will mean two sets of families will have been running the White House for over 2 decades? That CAN'T be a good thing.....I'm voting Obama.
Brandi Mazies
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 # Posted: 6 Feb 2008 23:55


Quoting: nicholman
It will be hard enough just to get me to vote, knowing that it won't really matter


I still believe one person will make a difference. Call me optimistic....or gullible. lol
Monique Kamosi
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 # Posted: 7 Feb 2008 00:13


I agree, Brandi. My vote better count after I stood in line for over two hours! Haha.
Ara Bruno
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 # Posted: 7 Feb 2008 04:48


Quoting: craziemazies
I'm voting Obama.


I don't want to get into any political debates but very very good choice. I spent all day the other day reading up on each of the candidates and watching debates and I choose Obama and I am very VERY excited about him seeing the white house.
jo Cardwell
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 # Posted: 7 Feb 2008 14:05


We are watching the elections with interest over here in the UK. Mr Obama looks like a great candidate. Something I would find interesting is if a black woman is deciding between Clinton and Obama, what would take precedence in her considerations, race or gender?
Ara Bruno
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 # Posted: 7 Feb 2008 14:07 - Edited by: Bruno43


Quoting: JojoA1
I would find interesting is if a black woman is deciding between Clinton and Obama, what would take precedence in her considerations, race or gender?


I personally hope that she would not pick a candidate because of race or gender but because of what he/she stands for and his policies.
Rob M.
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 # Posted: 7 Feb 2008 14:09 - Edited by: RMontgomery


I am going with John McCain. Just seems like a good guy. We need an old grandpa to run the country for a while. Especially one that is sympathetic to both republicans and democrats.

I just recently switched from democrat to republican (although I absolutely hate Bush). If I were to go democrat, I would certainly go with Obama over Hilary.
jo Cardwell
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 # Posted: 7 Feb 2008 14:31


Quoting: Bruno43
I personally hope that she would not pick a candidate because of race or gender but because of what he/she stands for and his policies.


One would hope that policy would be the primary consideration but I wonder if the race/gender issue would cause someone to identify more with one candidate over another, and if so, which parts of their identity would factor most strongly. Just a philosophical thought.
Rob M.
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 # Posted: 7 Feb 2008 14:59


I am very interested to see how the democratic race pans out. I was shocked to see that the democrats chose two candidates that if either would become president it would be unprecedented. That is a bold move by the democrats and I am interested to see how the nation will respond. Granted these are two highly qualified candidates, but we simply have never had an african american or woman president. There is always a first for everything though. I would have absolutely no problem if either became president, but I wonder if that is truly how the rest of the country feels. In my eyes there are a ton of racist and sexist people out there.
Another Dave (formerly Release the Hounds)
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 # Posted: 7 Feb 2008 15:12


Quoting: RMontgomery
I am going with John McCain.


yah, i feel ya. i used to be a McCain fan in 2000, but the stances he's taken since then have really turned me off. in particular, i don't like that he apparently feels the occupation of iraq could and should last for a long time. from just a practical perspective, way too much blood and treasure have been spent on that part of the world already. i saw a graph the other day that indicated that once all other confilicts dating back to the revolutionary war had been put into 2008 dollars, the iraq war has been the most expensive. just think if we had used that money to develop ways to wean ourselves off of oil with all of that money? brazil went from a completely oil-based economy in 8-10 years to an ethanol-based one. they get their fuel from growing sugar cane...

i just hope the new president is forward looking. sadly, most politicians, both dems and repubs, are either do-less to begin with or become corrupted by the system once they're in Washington for a few years.
Rob M.
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 # Posted: 7 Feb 2008 15:15 - Edited by: RMontgomery


Yep, that is the one issue that I have with McCain. I don't want us in Iraq until I am 40. But I feel like he will make judgments like a sane individual and not just keep us there for the hell of it like Bush. He will actually have reasons if he does.
Another Dave (formerly Release the Hounds)
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 # Posted: 7 Feb 2008 15:25


Quoting: JojoA1
I wonder if the race/gender issue would cause someone to identify more with one candidate over another


yah, i've had a few conversations about this. the way people have voted tends to support that idea. black people overwhelmingly (like 83%) go for obama while women and people over 50 trend heavily towards hillary. (as an aside, hillary also gets a very significant chunk of the latino vote.) obama cleans up on the young vote.

i'll tell ya, that guy gives the best speeches i've every heard. i wasn't alive when mlk was doing his thing, but i would imagine that they're on the same rhetorical level. i literally get goose bumps during obama's speeches.
Jeff Bristow
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 # Posted: 7 Feb 2008 19:42


Mitt Romney just jumped out of the race for the Republican nomination.
Dave Nicholson
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 # Posted: 7 Feb 2008 20:52


I saw... Unfortunately the only candidate I can support in good conscience is Ron Paul, and he has about a good a chance of winning as I do

The only 'race' seems to be in the Democratic primary - the republican nomination is between a religious zealot with a sociopathic family, and old guy who 'hates gooks and always will' and was laughed out of the 2000 elections, and a crazy even-older-guy that wants to abolish half the government and doesn't have any support outside the internet. Oh well, I suppose it's interesting to watch the country polarize around Clinton and Obama!
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