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Dan Jones
traineo Fanatic Posts: 175
Dan Jones
Music fanatic (like my "Korny" picture?), video game industry VP.
Losing my final 80 pounds and feelling great!
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# Posted: 16 Jan 2008 14:50
I just got an electric BP monitor for myself. My measurements say 138/87 which according to the web is prehypertension. My question is (for those doctors and nurses) will obesity cause higher BP regardless if you're exercising? I've been exercising and losing for over a year but still have these numbers. Will they go down to more normal numbers once I lose another 100 lbs?
Concerned, Dan
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Cardio King
Fitness Guru Posts: 1784
Cardio King
Words to live by: "Now's the time to grab the steering wheel of your life. Delve deep within yourself and take responsibility for your health and behavior. Ask yourself hard questions and face the truth of what needs to be done. Weight loss is not always easy or fair but you are the only one that can lose weight for you. Take a turn for the better!"
Goals: 1) Lose ~45 pounds 2) Work out at least 6 days a week 3) Eat healthier consistently
I will reward myself at the following weights: 240, 235, 230, 225, 220, 215, 205, 200, 195, 190
I will reassess my goals after I have met the above goals.
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# Posted: 16 Jan 2008 15:16
Dan,
Have you been monitoring your sodium intake? Sometimes even seemingly healthy foods are brimming with sodium. My blood pressure has been consistently highly (phase 2 hypertension), but my doctor always told me I was still in the position to change that if I lost some weight and had a more active lifestyle. I've only lost 11 pounds since the last time I saw my doctor, but I've been on a very strict diet these past couple of days. My sodium intake has been pretty low and now my blood pressure is relatively normal (126/81). I'm hoping as the weight comes off, my blood pressure will stay in this range or lower, especially since I have a predisposition for hypertension due to family history of the "silent killer."
If you have been watching your sodium intake and doing everything else you can do to combat the high blood pressure, then you should talk to your doctor and get their professional opinion and advice.
Good luck. Let me know how it goes. We can battle high blood pressure together!!!
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Itadaki Mouse
Fitness Guru Posts: 813
Itadaki Mouse
"Now, here, you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place. If you want to get somewhere else, you must run at least twice as fast as that."
-- said the White Queen to Alice in Through the Looking Glass
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# Posted: 16 Jan 2008 18:16 - Edited by: Tikbalang
I am not a doctor, so please take the following as my own personal experience only.
I was in the same fix -- 7 years of weight lifting, and my cholesterol and BP were still a mess.
What worked for me was laying off coffee, drastically reducing my dietary sodium intake, and dropping supplements like creatine and NO2 (often laced with caffeine) that boosted my BP. Cardio was also key -- running lowered my BP, rest heart rate, and cholesterol. Weight lifting and weight loss will only go so far if you have genetic predispositions like I do.
Even so, the best I can get seems to be 120/77, down from 140/80. Lisinopril or hydrochlorothiazide lowered it by the same amount, without me resorting to cardio or dietary changes (I've since gone off those meds). For a time, I was on the beta blocker Inderal (propanolol) for migraines, which had a side effect of lowering my BP to 115/72, but I've also gone off of that because of the dizziness, cold hands/feet, and weight gain (I suspect due to induced metabolism changes). Since I resumed serious lifting, my migraines have not returned.
Do you also get wildly fluctuating readings? I can't figure mine out -- I can get 148/80, 122/77, and 117/73 all within minutes (this was roughly 30 minutes after a 1.5 hour lifting and cardio workout). I can get lower numbers by doing meditative breathing exercises to relax myself, but I wonder if I should be doing that or just reporting the higher numbers -- since I don't usually go through the day in a Zen trance to begin with.
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Cardio King
Fitness Guru Posts: 1784
Cardio King
Words to live by: "Now's the time to grab the steering wheel of your life. Delve deep within yourself and take responsibility for your health and behavior. Ask yourself hard questions and face the truth of what needs to be done. Weight loss is not always easy or fair but you are the only one that can lose weight for you. Take a turn for the better!"
Goals: 1) Lose ~45 pounds 2) Work out at least 6 days a week 3) Eat healthier consistently
I will reward myself at the following weights: 240, 235, 230, 225, 220, 215, 205, 200, 195, 190
I will reassess my goals after I have met the above goals.
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# Posted: 16 Jan 2008 18:20
I'm not sure Itadaki. Isn't there like an optimal time when you can take your pressure for consistent readings? I'm not sure if taking it after a workout, no matter how long after, is the best idea. But I'm by no means an expert!
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Angie H
Fitness Guru Posts: 718
Angie H
I am using the Zone way of eating (www.drsears.com) to attain my target and increase my wellness.
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# Posted: 16 Jan 2008 19:09
This is a little random, but may help you understand normal fluctuations in your blood pressure.
My mom is a nurse and used me as a guinea pig to prove her point. She was correct.
Your blood pressure and heart rate are somewhat interdependent. WHEN RESTING: When your heart rate is lower, your blood pressure increases. When your heart rate is higher, your blood pressure decreases.
She has noticed this phenomenon since she first started taking blood pressure readings. She will sometimes sees a fairly large fluctuation in blood pressure accompanied by a change in heart rate. So, for her to truly determine if someone's blood pressure is higher or lower than normal, she tries to compare the heart rate at the time of the readings.
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Dave Nicholson
The Master Posts: 2094


Dave Nicholson
I'm basically trying to get in shape and be healthy...
diaryofthefatman.blogspot.com
I like participating in sports but I want to be more competitive. Also I'm with Kevin Spacey from American Beauty - good reason :)
I'm looking to lose about a hundred lbs in the course of a year, and basically to just consistently get better. And I love comments and messages, so keep 'em coming!
I talk about goal setting a lot, how about I actually set some?
Well it's time to revisit goals... I didn't do too well with my end of year plans, but learned some things and changed my plans up a bit as I went along. During the 5-7 weeks of the year, I was able to put on about 8-10lbs of muscle, and stay at the same actual weight. The plan is to start the Strong Lifts 5X5 program to supplement the Couch to 5K program, and that should last the next 8-12 weeks.
I'm updating goals as well. Lowering cholesterol remains a goal, and I'll find out about that at the end of August.
Been bouncing around a bit, but getting a little stricter again and will monitor that over the next 3-4 weeks. I feel poised to really lose some weight again, so I'm looking forward to the healthy eating and additional exercise.

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# Posted: 16 Jan 2008 19:19
Being overweight can certainly cause problems with your BP, but you should consult a doctor as well because there can be other causes that should be looked into.
My BP just recently became elevated (142/102), after being on the low normal side all my life (even as recent as early December it was 119/78). I don't generally add salt to anything and don't really eat anything that is high in Sodium, but have been obese all my life. So, hopefully losing the weight will get me off the meds!
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Dan Jones
traineo Fanatic Posts: 175
Dan Jones
Music fanatic (like my "Korny" picture?), video game industry VP.
Losing my final 80 pounds and feelling great!
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# Posted: 17 Jan 2008 15:34
Thanks everybody... I had a manual pump and release monitor (20 bux at CVS) but switched to an electric one two days ago.
Do any of you use Omron electronic monitors at home? I also was informed that I may need to purchase a "big" cuff for my arm. The thing barely fits around my bicep due to the fat...ehem, muscle.
DJ
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Cindy N
Fitness Guru Posts: 733
Cindy N
Goals This Week: Watch the Penguins beat the Red Wings in the Stanley Cup Finals!!! Continue getting up early for boot camp Heavy Strength Training 1x/wk Drink at least 1000ml water 5 out of 7 days Avoid crummy foods at least 3 days
Goals Last Week: Watch the Penguins beat the Flyers in the playoffs!!! - COMPLETE!!!!! Continue getting up early for boot camp - COMPLETE, almost didn't make it 5/23 though Do the 1 mile test run in under 10 min. - DONE IN 10:10, close! Heavy Strength Training 1x/wk - Not this week :( Drink at least 1000ml water a day - Only 4 out of 7 days, and still no excuse May Goals: Run whole Race for the Cure 5K - COMPLETE! Boot Camp for 4 weeks starting 5/12 Get out of the "obese" range on the BMI chart (185.5)
Upcoming: Son's graduation in June (lots of family and friends visiting) 10K in September 2008
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# Posted: 17 Jan 2008 15:39
The size of the cuff definitely makes a difference. I've taken BPs on the same person with two different cuffs and had wildly different readings.
I've been battling my BP for a couple years now and finally gave in to meds a few months ago. Losing weight and exercise didn't help me, unfortunately. I just have bad BP genes.
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joe flood
traineo Newbie Posts: 3
joe flood
Low carbing with no real set diet. I'm looking at this a permanent life style change and making plans to slowly change the family eating habits to healthier ones. Nothing crazy, just healthier overall.
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# Posted: 17 Jan 2008 15:50
The right size cuff is apparently critical to an accurate reading. I donate blood frequently and they always start with the reg size cuff, decide it's a little too small and move to the bigger cuff. You should probably wait a little longer after your workouts as well since that also seems to be a factor in accuracy. Good luck!
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Splint Chesthair
Fitness Guru Posts: 471
Splint Chesthair
Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.)
http://splintchesthair.blogspot.com/
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# Posted: 17 Jan 2008 15:58
I would say being overweight definitely has an effect. I've always had wonderful and consistent blood pressure, like 118/74 every time I was measured when I was younger. I used to like to show off at those free readers at Wal-Mart. Last summer I did it, expecting to get another good score and it was 136/85! I never ever had a score like that. I confirmed it with my doctor. That's what motivated me to really lose the extra weight. 4 months later I was measured for a life insurance policy and measured 116/68. I'm convinced it was all the extra fat.
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