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Amanda Melo
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 # Posted: 22 Jan 2007 20:36 - Edited by: amelo


My husband want to lose belly, help me!!!! !!!
Fred L
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 # Posted: 22 Jan 2007 21:50


Huh? Your husband wants to lose his? Or he wants you to lose yours?
chris w
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 # Posted: 22 Jan 2007 22:33


I want to lose my belly. Need to drop about 40-50 lbs in the next yr. I have HBP so I dont want to do too much in the beginning. Need to ease back into working out. Any recommended workouts? Just joined the Y. Getting up at 5 to go up there before work for an hr.
Genevieve D.
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 # Posted: 22 Jan 2007 22:40


Walking is great for low intensity exercise. Walking a mile and running a mile burns roughly the same amount of calories, just running is faster.
Fred L
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 # Posted: 23 Jan 2007 04:53


Genevieve, I am not sure if I agree with that. IF your intensity is the same, your statement would be true. However, if your intensity (heart rate) is a lot lower when walking, then you will be burning less calories walking.

Chris:
I would suggest started slow and watch what you eat. Maybe start by walking 20-25 mins a day and slowly increase that to 45-60 over the next couple of weeks. IF you want to do an hour right away, then mix it up using a variety of machines and/or include weightlifting. Make sure you get some vegetables and fruits in some of your meals. Make sure you limit your carbs at night. These are just some ideas to start with. IF you can, take some time to count your calories on a daily basis also to see how many cals you are bringing in.
Lori E
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 # Posted: 23 Jan 2007 05:00


Its calories per mile, not per minute. i agree with Genevieve: mile per mile, walking will burn the same number of calories, it just takes longer!
Leila King
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 # Posted: 23 Jan 2007 13:44


Walking is a good idea! It's also really fun, if you enjoy scenery and fresh air, and you can also bring along a walkman to listen to.

You could also do crunches. They don't burn a lot of calories, but they do tone up your stomach so that it becomes flatter.
Fred L
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 # Posted: 23 Jan 2007 15:01


Quoting: OzExile
Its calories per mile, not per minute. i agree with Genevieve: mile per mile, walking will burn the same number of calories, it just takes longer!


I still disagree with this. Your heart rate and intensity does influence the amount of calories you burn per minute.
Nathan P.
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 # Posted: 23 Jan 2007 15:15


Quoting: bigmex44
I still disagree with this. Your heart rate and intensity does influence the amount of calories you burn per minute.


That's what she is saying. Say it takes you 10 mins to run a mile, burning 30 calories a minute, that's 300 calories (i'm just using arbitrary numbers). But, it would take you 20 minutes to walk that same mile, burning 15 calories a minute, therefore you still burned 300 calories, it just took twice as long to do it.

I don't know if the numbers are accurate and i'm not saying whther I agree with anyone becasue I don't know the accurate numbers, but that is what she was trying to say.
Fred L
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 # Posted: 23 Jan 2007 15:32


Nathan, I think I understand now. I know you are throwing numbers out there and those numbers validate the statements made above.
Kamal Gautam
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 # Posted: 23 Jan 2007 16:31


I've never bought into that, either. While it's true that a mile is a mile is a mile, the motions involved in walking and running are not the same. When you run, you're not just moving forward, but you're also fighting gravity to lift yourself completely off the ground, and then absorbing more energy when your foot hits the ground again. I think you probably do burn a little more energy running a mile than walking it. I have no idea how much more, but I'd be hard pressed to believe there's no difference.
Nathan P.
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 # Posted: 23 Jan 2007 20:24 - Edited by: PozzSka


SO go to the gym, run one mile at 6 miles and hour, the next day walk a mile at 3 miles and hour and see which is more.

Ok you want to lose the belly. Good for you. Start eating less calories then you are spending. And start exercising, both cardio and strength training of some sort.

You need to calculate your basal metabolic rate (BMR). You can do that with these formulas:

The original equations from Harris and Benedict are:

for men, 66.4730 + (13.7516 * (kilos)) + (5.0033 * (cm)) - (6.7550 * (years))
for women, 655.0955 + (9.5634 * (kilos)) + (1.8496 * (cm)) - (4.6756 * (years))

Now eat about 500 less calories then that. Now workout at least several days a week and try to burn at least 500 calories per exercise session.

That's 3500 calorie defecit from dieting alone, plus whatever the calories you exercise away. 3500 calorie defecit is approx. 1 lb. of fat lost. may cary.

You can't crunch or sit up your belly away, you must lower your body fat percentage.

Good Luck!
Aoife Hammersmith
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 # Posted: 23 Jan 2007 21:04


Also, realize that you don't get to choose where your body burns fat from. So, you will lose weight from all over. Your arms, legs, butt, belly... and you'll keep going and get smaller, but your belly will probably still be proportionally the same as it was before, because your arms and legs are now smaller too. So it'll go away, but it'll take time, and you might get annoyed that it's not going away fast enough... but the only way to only get rid of belly fat is with a doctor and a knife. Since men tend to store fat more in that belly region, it'll be the last to go completely.

(BTW, lifting helps retain muscles elsewhere, so that's part of how you look better... work the chest and legs and back, the belly will then be smaller in comparison because the rest of you won't wither away to nothing.)
Nathan P.
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 # Posted: 23 Jan 2007 21:09


i'e lost 75 lbs and I still have a belly. it's smaller now, but damn these last 15 - 20 lbs to start showing the 6-pack. makes me crazy
Aoife Hammersmith
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 # Posted: 23 Jan 2007 21:13


Fun, isn't it?

17% bodyfat and still had just enough fat on my stomach to not actually see "girly abs" (as I call 'em). Cut up everywhere else. Frustrating....
Kamal Gautam
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 # Posted: 24 Jan 2007 16:07 - Edited by: gautamk


Quoting: PozzSka
SO go to the gym, run one mile at 6 miles and hour, the next day walk a mile at 3 miles and hour and see which is more.


The calories reported by those machines are not very accurate at all. They're averages based on what a "typical" person would burn under "typical" conditions. They also don't take other factors into account. For instance, if you were to flail your arms about like a madman while walking/running, you'd burn more calories, but the machine would have no idea about that.

I'm not saying it's a huge difference, but there IS a difference between walking and running, and I'd be curious if anyone's done studies to determine just how much of a difference it is.
Nathan P.
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 # Posted: 24 Jan 2007 16:17 - Edited by: PozzSka


but in relation to each other it should be accurate, I'm not saying the numbers are truly accurate, but they shoudl relate to each other appropriately..
Aoife Hammersmith
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 # Posted: 24 Jan 2007 16:46


Quoting: gautamk
The calories reported by those machines are not very accurate at all.



One need only use a heart rate monitor that gives a calories burned output. It's somewhat more accurate (certainly in a relative way, like this) because you usually input height, weight, and it's going by some level of exertion (heart rate).
Kamal Gautam
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 # Posted: 24 Jan 2007 16:50


My point was that the calorie-indicators on those machines are grossly oversimplified and just because they show two different exercises as burning the same calories, doesn't mean they actually do.

Here's an interesting article that explains the differences between walking and running much better than I can:

http://www.runnersworld.com/article/0,7120,s6-242- 304-311-8402-0,00.html
Aoife Hammersmith
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 # Posted: 24 Jan 2007 17:07


I realize they're oversimplified (and HIGHLY inaccurate). I'm saying if one wants to find out if it's the same calories for them, one should use a more personalized, somewhat more accurate method for experimentation.

I'm not commenting either way on whether it is or is not the same calories burned. The only issue is that usually with heart rate monitors, one must be at least 100bpm for the thing to measure caloric expenditure. So it's a brisk walk and a run, for the same distance, making sure heart rate is above the minimum required by the monitor to find out.
Kamal Gautam
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 # Posted: 24 Jan 2007 17:11


@Aoife - messages got crossed, I was responding to Nathan's message above.
Aoife Hammersmith
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 # Posted: 24 Jan 2007 17:19


oh. ha.
Amy I
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 # Posted: 29 Jan 2007 23:39


Quoting: bigmex44
Quoting: OzExile
Its calories per mile, not per minute. i agree with Genevieve: mile per mile, walking will burn the same number of calories, it just takes longer!

I still disagree with this. Your heart rate and intensity does influence the amount of calories you burn per minute.


It is calories per minute.
Amy I
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 # Posted: 29 Jan 2007 23:40


Quoting: gautamk
Quoting: PozzSka
SO go to the gym, run one mile at 6 miles and hour, the next day walk a mile at 3 miles and hour and see which is more.

The calories reported by those machines are not very accurate at all. They're averages based on what a "typical" person would burn under "typical" conditions. They also don't take other factors into account. For instance, if you were to flail your arms about like a madman while walking/running, you'd burn more calories, but the machine would have no idea about that.

I'm not saying it's a huge difference, but there IS a difference between walking and running, and I'd be curious if anyone's done studies to determine just how much of a difference it is.


The differance is 10%-15%
Shawn W.
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 # Posted: 1 Feb 2007 16:38


I think the hardest thing people think is that you can really 'target' fat in certain areas and remove those the fastest...

Sadly it does not really work like that... As one looses fat it comes from all over their body... now some areas fade quicker than others but if you have more built up along your waist and only a little around your arms and legs, where are you going to notice it first?

Constant excercise and doing what nathan said of eating those 3,500 cal less a week will help. Starvation won't do it and going really low on your food intake usually hurts you as your not getting the right balance of nutrients you need.


Gluck with your goals.
wrez aninsky
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 # Posted: 1 Feb 2007 17:50


tell him you need 2 have more sex about 2-3 times a day that should help you both loose the belly ;)
Tina Beana
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 # Posted: 1 Feb 2007 18:34


My husband keeps telling me to do crunches to lose tummy chub ( I hate the term 'belly fat").

I keep telling him that crunches alone will give me hard muscles... under a layer of padding! He believes me not.


Shawn W.
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 # Posted: 1 Feb 2007 18:52


Back in my 'younger days' when i was in high school and college i did an average of 300 situps a day (Pole vaulted and stomach strength is a key part along with alota other upperbody). Crunches and side obliques (sp?) and more was part of my daily routine... however while this provided me an amazing 8pack what allowed me to show it off was the 2-3 miles a day I ran for endurance, combined with sprinting, weight lifting and a great diet program. I still ate around 3000-3500 calories a day, weighed in from 160-170, but had a 10% body fat or less ratio...

I had buddies who were with me that put in alot more crunches/situps and never saw the same 'washboard' abs because they didn't do much besides weight training... it provided strength but little cardio as they chit chatted and what not... they had great stomach strength but they always had that layer of 'fat/padding' because they did not focus on a total workout and do enough to burn calories and loose weight.

Sadly the "do crunches to lose your gut" thought is widely spread and makes millions on people year round.

Good luck eductating your husband otherwise.
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