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Chris Mattingly
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Chris Mattingly
Hi, I'm Chris, the designer of traineo and from blubolt.com. Feel free to contact me if you have any questions or even if you want to be motivated. I'm a bit of a fitness fanatic so I'll try my best to help!
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# Posted: 10 Aug 2006 14:47
Hi Guys,
I've included a fairly informative guide to weight traineo which should be useful for any novice who wants to develop strength and muscle in the most effective way or just to tone up. This article is geared to the very inexperienced to outline the key principles that must be considered to maximise the inevitable gains a complete beginner will make and to get into the good habits as early as possible. Thanks to Richard Cash for providing much of the content.
1. Mind set
So often neglected by the beginner and yet the most important ingredient in success.... DESIRE. So many fail by seeing it as a short term goal to improve your physique. This will contribute to failure. Get it out of your head that you need to get in shape for your holiday in 8 weeks time. You should see it as a lifestyle. A way to live your life. "A bodybuilder is for life not just for Christmas"
Accept the condition your body is in and make the decision to change your life to achieve your objectives. Accept it is a long term plan and you will not be disheartened if it takes time to improve. Lets face it folks, if it was easy then everybody would be doing it.
Be realistic about your goals. A beginner should not be saying I want to lose 30Ibs of fat and gain 20Ibs of lean muscle in 2 months. It Just won't happen, yet people time & again put this sort of image in their mind and become disheartened when it doesn't happen that fast. Time to wake up and forget the brainwashing from much of the health & fitness industry we have endured most of our lives to sell their latest fat loss or muscle growth gimmick.
Prepare yourself for hard work and sacrifice and you will see it as something you love and not as a chore. You will see it as something that distinguishes you from the masses who cannot be bothered or those who shoulder too much pride to seek advice. As soon as you see it as a chore you are on the path to failure.
2. Objective Setting
First of all assess your physique. Decide what you need to do most of all – Lose fat, build muscle. How fat you are, or how small your muscles are, will determine where your priorities are. I feel this is important so that you can set yourself some attainable targets. Remember...for fat loss, the more muscle you have the more calories your body burns at rest (approx 50 cals per hour as opposed to 5 cals per hour of fat) and while exercising a Ib of muscle burns roughly 10x as many calories as a Ib of fat (approx 70 cals per hour compared to 7 cals per hour for fat). Do the math.... If you add an extra 14Ibs of lean muscle to your body you will burn an extra 1200 calories per day just by having the muscle. This is 8400 calories per week (remember that 1 Ib fat is 3600 calories) so that's almost the equivalent of an additional 2Ib of fat per week that your body burns off just by having that extra muscle. This means that you have a much faster metabolic rate than you would have without that muscle.
Set some sensible targets e.g. to lose 10Ibs of fat in 5 weeks and gain 5 Ibs of lean muscle mass. Despite what we think, it is physically more difficult to build muscle than to lose fat. You can, though not advisable, lose 4 or 5 Ibs of fat in a week (as you are likely to lose muscle mass). You cannot build 5Ibs of lean muscle in a week.... live with that fact as It will not happen.
Setting some lifting targets as you become familiar with the exercises and your routine e.g adding 20kg to your bench press in a month, will help you gauge your progress.
3. Training with Weights
Your weights routine will be the bedrock of your lean muscle gains. To make consistent and long term gains you should make of point of having a structured weight routine from the start.
My first recommendation is to join a good gym. A gym that offers a comprehensive induction process, members of staff who know what they are doing. It should have a full range of free weights & equipment, lots of dumbells and plates (especially plenty of the heavy plates 20Kgs) for you to work your way up to the bigger weights. A good gym will be one where you feel comfortable.
It is very important that as a novice you are NOT INTIMIDATED by training alongside much more experienced bodybuilders. They won't bite you !!!! Most are very nice, helpful and normal people that are good fun and often quick to help out. They will not be looking down at you because you are new to the sport. We all were at some time! In fact use their experience to help show you how to do exercises correctly, etc as most of us just love the sound of our own voice and will not hesitate to help someone less experienced. Swallow that pride folks.
My preference is to start as you mean to go on and learn to use free weights asap. They will allow a much more thorough workout of the muscles than machines due to the full range of natural motion you can achieve in the exercises and that they recruit many more fibres in the supporting muscles and working muscles than machines. More fibres recruited..... More muscle gains you'll make.
GET YOUR FORM RIGHT!!!! This cannot be stressed enough. Poor form is rife amongst the MAJORITY of gym goers and will vastly hinder your progress. Do not sacrifice good form in ALL exercises for more weight just to feed your ego! Your muscles will develop MUCH quicker and you will have much less risk of injury if your form is good. If you cannot complete good form with the exercise then the weight is too heavy for you. It's that simple! Live with it! And work at getting stronger while having perfect form. Do not try and compete against the bloke next to you who is doing it wrong but lifting heavier. (in 6 months time he'll be the one that won't have grown much at all and you can leave him to wonder how you have put on so much mass.)
Try and separate your workouts into splits – chest, biceps, triceps, back, traps, legs, calves, shoulders, abs. Train each group once a week and your body will have plenty of time to recover and rest. You grow when you rest.
A nice 4 day split that will not kill you is
- Chest/Triceps/Abs
- Back/Biceps
- Shoulders/Traps
- Legs/Calves
As a good rule aim for 9 to 12 sets (MAXIMUM) for Large Muscle groups (Chest/Back/Legs) followed by a smaller muscle group for 6 to 8 sets (MAXIMUM)(Biceps/Triceps/Shoulders/Abs/Calves). Go easy on the biceps as they are much smaller than the triceps so will probably respond better at the lower end of that set range. Forget about doing 50 sets of bicep curls for big arms! You'll overtrain them and they will not grow to their full potential.
Also as a good rule work at a weight that you can perform 6 to 8 reps with strict form with before you can't hold good form anymore. When 8x becomes comfortable then you can add a little more weight on. 6 to 8 reps is the best compromise between hypertrophy gains (muscle growth) & strength gains. Where you see "train to failure " this means until you cannot do anymore reps at that weight with perfect form.
4. Rest
This is very important. You should aim to give your muscles a week's rest for recovery and growth. Muscles grow while you rest. This is why you train each muscle group once a week, so that you give the muscle a weeks recovery time before you hit it again the following week. It is very easy to overtrain and when you do your body goes into catabolysis (where it starts using the body's protein source – muscle). This is not good. Many budding bodybuilders overtrain and wonder why their biceps haven't grown in the last 6 months! (that is why I have listed the rep & set numbers like I have). It is very easy to overtrain, especially when you are very enthusiastic at the outset. To begin with you will most likely gain some muscle but not nearly as much as if you rested properly. No good doing 20x sets of bicep curls 3x a week. Your arms will not grow!
You should get a minimum of 8hrs sleep every night. You grow while you sleep. Less than 7hrs and you start to risk catabolysis of the muscles and lose those hard earned gains.
5. Training – Cardio
Important for fat loss & cardiovascular fitness. You should aim to do cardio on separate sessions from weights so that your muscle glycogen is used while weight training to fuel the muscles. DO NOT perform cardio before the weights sessions otherwise you reduce the potency of the weights session.
Fat loss cardio should be at 65% Max Heart Rate (MHR) for 30 to 40 mins and ideally before breakfast so that your body can tap into its fat stores for fuel immediately. Any more than this and at a higher intensity then your body will also utilise protein for fuel and lead to muscle loss (HIIT is the exception to this but we'll keep it simple for now).
6. Diet
EAT CLEAN!Try and eat every 3hrs to keep protein flowing through your body to provide a positive nitrogen balance and to keep your metabolic rate high.
Muscle growth – High Protein, High Complex Carbohydrates, Moderate Fat (good fats – flax seed oil, rape seed oil, etc)
Fat Loss – High Protein, Lower Complex Carb, Very low simple carb, Lower Good Fat, No Saturated Fat.
To lose fat you need to use more calories than you consume. To gain muscle you need to raise the calories to a higher level than you would utilise. This means a little fat gain but with some gentle adjusting you'll find where your level is at. Aim for 1.5g of protein per Ib bodyweight for gaining & fat loss. 200Ib person would need 300g protein in diet per day for bodybuilding.
Also remember to get protein in you before you go to bed, when you wake up and immediately after weights. This is when your body needs it most.
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Wayne Edgar
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Wayne Edgar
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# Posted: 18 Aug 2006 20:08
Thanks for the article. This will be very helpful!
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Dan Strickland
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Dan Strickland
Hi. I need to lose some weight and get in better shape.
I'm eating a low carb, low GI diet. That's going well, but I need to exercise more.
I have a small home gym in my basement. This consists of: a Wieder weight system (stacks of weights on cables that does 20-something different things.) various dumbbells olympic barbell and 300 lbs of weights an exercise bike xbox ipod
I bought the xbox so I could play games while riding the bike. That worked great for about 3 months. Then I moved the xbox upstairs to the living room to watch a movie, and it has remained there ever since.
My problem is (wait for it) motivation.
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# Posted: 23 Aug 2006 06:37
Thanks for the article.
I just picked up a copy of The Complete Idiot's Guide to Weight Training. It got good reviews on Amazon. I'm just getting in to it, but this article reads like it could be the executive summary for the book. (That might have come out worng. I sincerely mean that as a compliment.)
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Nick Richards
traineo Fanatic Posts: 123
Nick Richards
Train as a bodybuilder. Aiming for 16 1/2 stone at 8% bodyfat, currently about 14 stone 10 at 14%.
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# Posted: 24 Aug 2006 23:37
Good post.
From somebody at the site i moderate on:
This routine is the one I used when I first started out and has proved very successful for the many lads I've trained since.
Train following the routine below 3 times a week allowing at least 1 days rest between for example mon,wed,fri:
1 Squats
2 calf raises
3 benchpress
4 lat pulldowns, bentover rows or chins
5 shoulder press (first set infront of head second behind alternate on third)
6 bicep curls
7 tricep extensions
You should do 3 sets of each exercise for 8-12 reps. So for each exercise you need to find the weight which will allow you to complete 8 reps with maximum effort, never put the weight down until you have tried for one more rep and failed this is known as training to positive failiure, it is these last 1 or 2 reps that will force the muscle to grow hence the phrase no pain no gain. Now wait 2 mins and reduce the weight by approx 10% then do your second set again to total positive failiure. You should always lower the bar under control and not let it drop down as this will reduce the effectiveness of the exercise and increase the risk of injury.
Now immediately you complete the second set reduce the weight down by 50 percent and do your third set again 8-12 reps to total positive failiure but this time count 4 seconds as you lower the bar. Now wait 5 mins then move on to the next exercise/bodypart.
When you can do 12 reps with the weight increase the weight by 10% this should reduce your reps back down to 8.
Keep a training diary listing weight and reps this way it is easy to see your progress and this helps keep you motivated.
so an example would be:-
Bench Press
You would do your first set with say 50kg wait 2 mins whilst waiting reduce the weight down to 45kg do your second set then immediately reduce the weight down to 25kg for the third slow set.
This may not seem like alot of training, the routine should only take just over an hour but believe me this is one time when less is more. The biggest mistake newbies make is over training. Your muscle must be trained then rested then they will recover and only when all of this has taken place will they GROW if you train again too soon they will not have time to grow and you will make no progress.
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Tom Hoffman Jr
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Tom Hoffman Jr
Being a computer tech doesn't make for a very active day with lots of calories burned! I'm hoping this site and a little help from my friends will help me get to my target weight and stay there.
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# Posted: 9 Sep 2006 19:28
excellent posts... thanks all for this invaluable info! now i'm off to do some weight training!
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David Robinson
traineo Regular Posts: 46
David Robinson
30 years old just recently married. Been on that up and down roller coaster ride all my life. My biggest problem is sticking with things for a long time. Let try another round.
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# Posted: 9 Sep 2006 22:17 - Edited by: idlehand
Well written and gives great true information that will help us all out.
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NYCinephile .
Fitness Guru Posts: 328
NYCinephile .
My fitness regimen includes stationary cycling, light weight training and lots of walking around NYC. I'm a graduate of WeightWatchers and an enthusiastic advocate of its balanced approach to weight loss. I'm sure that I drink too much coffee and get too little sleep. :)
My goals are to maintain my weight in a healthy BMI/BF % range and forestall the toll of advancing age. :)
I think Traineo's established a great community and appreciate the support and information we share.
You'll find me elsewhere on the Web at http://claimid.com/nycinephile
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# Posted: 10 Sep 2006 01:58
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Justin S.
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Justin S.
Being a computer programmer I sit on my butt a lot of the day and sometimes well into the night. Crazy development schedules also doesn't let me get to the gym on a consistant schedule. To combat this I've decided to take up Atkins again as I've had success with it in the past (50 lbs over 11 months). Now you might ask yourself, why again? Almost two years ago I met my fiance and a few months after I moved the 300 miles from my home town to D.C. to be closer to her and over the past 2 years I've put back on a little of the weight that I had lost. Now that we're planning a wedding I need to lose that new weight and hope that it takes some of its friends with it.
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# Posted: 26 Sep 2006 14:43
I've been looking the past few days for just this sort of information. I've been doing cardio in the mornings and weight training in the afternoons but without any sort of routine. Chris's essay and Nick's comments have given me a lot of the information I was missing so that I can now get started on actual routine.
I wonder if there's any chance of getting Chris's article pushed up to Traineo's Training section?
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Jeremiah Utecht
traineo Fanatic Posts: 190
Jeremiah Utecht
I am a contractor for a monolithic IT firm. This translates into a lot of time spent sitting. I have always been a big guy, but I am tired of being obese so I am going to utilize the power of community to hold my feet to the fire to stay active.
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# Posted: 26 Sep 2006 16:39
Thank you so much for the information!!!
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Becky B.
traineo Regular Posts: 39
Becky B.
Hi, I'm here finally!! took me several years.. LOL, but I'm going to lose it! Funny, how it took maybe 3 months to gain 70 pounds.
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# Posted: 18 Jan 2007 17:51
Hi, just reading this post.. I'm in the begining of weight training. I mean when there's FAT! I wrote a post but in the 'exercise and trianing tips' please if you have a chance read it.. 'Buiding a body from scratch'
I admire your commitment and dedication to bodybuilding.. Man, i wish I had a body already. But I'm starting and need lots and lots of help and encouragement..Take care Y'all'
Becky 
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Itadaki Mouse
Fitness Guru Posts: 801
Itadaki Mouse
"Now, here, you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place. If you want to get somewhere else, you must run at least twice as fast as that."
-- said the White Queen to Alice in Through the Looking Glass
Itadaki@Brightkite: http://brightkite.com/people/itadaki
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# Posted: 22 Jan 2007 05:53
Being a weight-lifter of seven years, I've unfortunately found out a few things the hard way so I thought I'd list them here.
Warm up! Definitely prevents injury, especially to your joints. A general warm up can be as simple as 5 minutes of walking or light jogging, but don't forget warm up sets! Going through the motions of an exercise with lighter weights will accustom your joints to the exercise before you hit it with the heavy weights.
Get a spotter or use a Smith machine or Grab&Go when training to failure. Very embarassing to be caught with a bar across your neck, if it doesn't kill you first.
I second the rest idea! I overtrained for pretty much the first six months when I started, got weaker, and didn't lose much fat.
Don't let having a lot of fat stop you from jumping into a weight training program, unless you're really sick and your doctor tells you not to. Which leads me to...
Talk to your doctor, but if your doctor is overweight chances are they can't help you and will not be supportive enough. Time to get another doctor! (I bond awesomely with my new vegan, exercises-like-a-fiend doctor.)
Finally diet. I only learned this recently: eat fewer calories doesn't mean eat less food and feel hungry! When you change what you eat to less calorie-dense foods, you can fill your belly with the same amount and yet consume less calories. Best to eat nutritious foods like fresh fruit, veggies, and coarsely-ground whole grain too.
I find it helpful to count the number of times in a day I switch a bad food to a good one, then use that number for my perceived dietary "goodness". Eat an apple, instead of those Fritos. Eat oatmeal for breakfast (not instant) instead of the buttered toast and ham. Have a cup of straight green tea, instead of coffee with cream and sugar.
I'm still worried about losing strength and muscle due to diet changes. I've noticed my strength slip somewhat in the last two weeks, but I'm reading up on it and hope to have a solution soon. (Reading all those vegan bodybuilder links that Aoife and others posted!)
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Dave O
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Dave O
Hey, I'm a lot like you...I need to lose weight. Started at 332 last year and my goal is 190-200.
Since we're in this together, I'm asking for an agreement. If you agree to motivate me, then I will absolutely commit to not wasting your time nor energy, to take your tips and motivation seriously and of course reciprocate to ANYBODY out there that is looking for an honest, candid and sincere motivator while changing their lifestyle.
Do we have a deal? (Handshake and a pat on the back!)
My podcast/blog is really just a way for me to remain accountable for my weekly progress and for once and for all change my life FOREVER.
I hope that I didn't bore you, but a profile (to me) is something that you can read, understand where I'm coming from and hopefully have a good, clear mental snapshot as to who is behind the typing.
I hope to help as much as possible as well as get valuable tips and support from this site. Thanks for reading and I hope that you'll come to me when you need motivation or a little kick to get you going. Man, my fingers hurt. My goal weight is per month, NOT the overall goal. I find that monthly goals are a lot more motivating and recognizable rather than saying "I need to lose 90 pounds or so".
Each month, my goal will change. BTW, my monthly goal is at least 8 pounds loss.
Peace and lets get going!

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# Posted: 22 Jan 2007 13:18 - Edited by: zap120
This is my 100th post and since a milestone in my traineo life, I thought it better be a great one.
@ Becky
I have about 80-90 pounds to lose and many people have told me NOT to do weight training until I am very close to my goal weight. I'm not sure why.
A visit to my MD last September encouraged me to think otherwise. He told me that weight training will do 2 things.
1. Create muscle which will in turn assist in fat burning.
2. Make my body stronger
These are two benefits that I greatly wanted as I was weak and very achy.
I have seen incredible changes in my body in terms of flexibility, ability to manage stress (running, falling, agility, etc.) and physical differences like a less sagging chest, stronger legs and a tiny change in my ab and arm area. This not only keeps me motivated but also confirms the fact that although I need to lose a lot of weight, my body is absolutely, without a doubt developing and getting stronger and when my fat is gone, I'll be that much more ahead of the game.
Becky, once you see gains and changes, you will "see" the body under your fat and THAT will be your reward.
Keep going!
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Becky B.
traineo Regular Posts: 39
Becky B.
Hi, I'm here finally!! took me several years.. LOL, but I'm going to lose it! Funny, how it took maybe 3 months to gain 70 pounds.
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# Posted: 22 Jan 2007 15:24
 Thanks Dave & congrats on your success Keep going too!!!...I'm not doing heavy weight AT ALL..I'm walking 3 miles with hand weights and bands...light cardio after that, I'll pick up the pace once I'm down to 170..I'm guessing by this time next month
@ Itadaki: I finally replaced a cup of coffee for green tea, and said good bye to eggs/bacon tortilla tacos! said: Hello' to my little friend' the oatmeal bowl' LOL.
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Nathan P.
Fitness Guru Posts: 498
Nathan P.
I'm a 23 year old FFB (former fat boy). I'm a grad student at the Univ. of Phoenix. I was married on June 1st, 2007 by a wonderful supportive woman.
I have always been the fat kid so now I've changed that. I started at 305. I lost 80 pounds and was at 225 after I was sick. From Jan 07 to Apr 07, I put on 25 pounds. I then started to lose weight again, but started doing it the right way. I am now 235 and leaner than I was at 225. I'm going to see how close I can get to a 6 pack, but eventually I'll start trying to put on some muscle. Then lean out again.
Six-Pack would be awesome, I've never had one of those. So we'll see. (my photo is me at 305lbs. when i get a good pic of me now at my current weight, i'll post it)
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# Posted: 22 Jan 2007 16:23
Egg whites are going to be your best friend when you lots of protein and few calories.
i think 15 calories and 6 gr of protein per egg white. Most of the calories are in the yolk.
Careful with the arm badns and weights while walking, you can hurt your joints, be careful.
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Mom Dunleavy
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Mom Dunleavy
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# Posted: 22 Jan 2007 17:38
Thanks to all of you for the valuable info. I weight trained for a year with a trainer (now I am on my own), after I had lost 100 pounds and still had 60 to go. SO to Becky, believe me when you weight train, you still will eventually see definition under the fat especially in your arms. I was amazed and very happy about that. Egg whites are the way to go and I also use Amino 2222 when I haven't eaten enough protein. It is a faster way to get it.
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Jessipoo .
Fitness Guru Posts: 622

Jessipoo .
About me: --------------------------- I'm an architecture student at a great school.
After trial and error, managed to shed the pounds for real.
What I'm doing: --------------------------- Portion control still a problem. HIIT 2x/week Starting weights 1x/week
I take stairs over escalator and elevator ALL THE TIME (I climb 6 sets of stairs minimum for the day at the metro 2-3floors?).
Extra note: --------------------------- I finally understand what being fit means! And I actually love running now thanks to HIIT.
Goal: lose the belly fat! My problem area. First goal: 120lbs - MET 2nd goal: 116lbs - MET 3rd goal: 112lbs ish with more muscle definition
Realizing I can't change the way my body stores fat and have a noticeable belly during the day (pic was morning with light breakfast after workout) I will work on making a stronger core to counter the pooch a bit
Dropped 1 pant size since last year (stable weight) Dropped 2 pant sizes since mid-Summer after Greece (pastries=weight gain)
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# Posted: 11 Feb 2007 07:45
wow I actually learnt stuff, I actually do my cardio right before weights cuz both workouts are not that intense so I figure while I'm at it.. why not
so I should do them on seperate days?? (I don't quite understand your explanation, why?)
and out of curiosity, doing intense cardio alone, could that still help give you a bit of tone? since you are using your muscles..??
I plan on doing 3 cardio workouts and 2 muscle (30 mins targetting every major muscle group) and one 20 minute abs routine), do you think that's okay to get me fit and toned in about 2 months time (with healthy eating habits of course, 1500 calorie a day diet, although I usually go over)?
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Denis dhekaier
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# Posted: 21 Feb 2007 19:49
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Chi Sharpe
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Chi Sharpe
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# Posted: 23 Feb 2007 23:19
good write up man...
the bit about mind set is real good..
iv tried alot of this only thing is i stoped going to the gym for a yr and now im small again. so deffo people need to realise its a lifestyle not just for a few months..
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Karma Rex
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Karma Rex
I live on a island in Southeastern Alaska. I work full time, volunteer as an EMT, and teach yoga. I'm trying to become more active and lose some weight. I love water aerobics, but need to add in some more calorie burning activities.
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# Posted: 25 Feb 2007 06:10
Hi, I'm fairly new to this website, have been over at the JUDDDING forum for a couple of weeks. I also am interested in getting into a serious weight training program, I am a 56 year old woman that is healthy and in good shape despite being slightly overweight. What would be a good training that I could do at our local gym. We have machines and only hand held dumbbells for weights. I have the book Power of 10 which talks about doing very heavy weights at a real slow count. What do you all think of that approach??
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Kelly Michelle
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Kelly Michelle
I'm a 17 year old honour student from Ontario, Canada. School is a very high priority in my life right now, and my aspirations of becoming a medical Doctor rely heavily upon it. In my, rather unfrequent, spare time I enjoy watching anime, writing, reading, dancing, social drinking, laughing, and playing role play games.
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# Posted: 4 Mar 2007 22:34
Wow, wonderful article you have written  I feel like I'm in a self study class. So much valuable information packed into this thread. :P
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Aaron Jacob
traineo Newbie Posts: 23
Aaron Jacob
I am a runner but I am trying to gain some weight so I can increase my power output and speed. I have gained 5 pounds in the past 3 months but with the weather warming up and racing season starting I don't think I'll be able to put much on until Autumn. I am getting a bike in the next few weeks.
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# Posted: 5 Mar 2007 06:18
That is a pretty good writeup for someone interested in Bobdybuilding or physique.
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Don Seiler
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Don Seiler
I sit in front of a computer all day.
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# Posted: 8 May 2007 14:25
Quoting: chris Remember...for fat loss, the more muscle you have the more calories your body burns at rest (approx 50 cals per hour as opposed to 5 cals per hour of fat) and while exercising a Ib of muscle burns roughly 10x as many calories as a Ib of fat (approx 70 cals per hour compared to 7 cals per hour for fat). Do the math.... If you add an extra 14Ibs of lean muscle to your body you will burn an extra 1200 calories per day just by having the muscle.
In the immortal words of Dr. Tobias Funke: "You're blowing my mind, Frank."
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Dan Doucette
traineo Fanatic Posts: 194
Dan Doucette
I've been trying to lose weight for a couple of years now, I seem to be easily discouraged because I'm able to lose a few pounds but normally gain them right back. I have to find something that works, this is unacceptable.
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# Posted: 8 May 2007 15:32
Great write-up. I totally agree with the mindset. I found when I first started training I dreaded going for my workouts but I would push through them anyway. As I got stronger and more confident in the gym I enjoyed myself more. Now I look forward to going and working out.
I also agree with getting the form right, beginners should hire a personal trainer at first to make sure they are doing exersizes correctly. I did not do this and I always find myself trying to correct form that I've done for over a decade. It is extremely hard to change your ways once they are set.
One thing I would suggest is not to break up body parts into separate days but rather work your whole body every second day. Muscles take 2 days to recooperate. If you are working your bicep once a week it only grows for 2 days. If you work every muscle every second day then they are growing ALL week.
Rexanne S.: I've never heard of the power of 10 but I have heard of a workout routine called the "Colorado Expirement" which has you lifting weights slowly and until total muscle failure, meaning you are getting someone to lift the weights for you (spotter) at the end of your sets and just lowering them on your own. Doesn't really mention if it's heavy or not. I just started this workout and it's pretty intense. I only do one set per body part.
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Joel Bernardo
Fitness Guru Posts: 308
Joel Bernardo
fitness goal:
Become Adrian Peterson.
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d804b8b6b
I exercise everyday because I want to live a long and healthy life.
I eat healthy foods because they make me feel great!
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# Posted: 8 May 2007 20:37
wow, that was an eye opener as far as my diet goes. i really need to increase my calorie intake if i expect to see any results.
i got stuck on the math. i'm a little embarrassed to point it out. i think i've missed something obvious.
Quoting: chris Remember...for fat loss, the more muscle you have the more calories your body burns at rest (approx 50 cals per hour as opposed to 5 cals per hour of fat) and while exercising a Ib of muscle burns roughly 10x as many calories as a Ib of fat (approx 70 cals per hour compared to 7 cals per hour for fat). Do the math.... If you add an extra 14Ibs of lean muscle to your body you will burn an extra 1200 calories per day just by having the muscle. This is 8400 calories per week (remember that 1 Ib fat is 3600 calories) so that's almost the equivalent of an additional 2Ib of fat per week that your body burns off just by having that extra muscle.
does 1lb of muscle (at rest) really burn 50Cal per hour? or is it 50Cal a day? 14lbs x 50Cal/hr.lb x 24 hrs = 16,800Cal.
14lbs x 50Cal/day.lb = 700Cal
the 1,200 you came up with, is that 50Cal x 24hrs = 1,200? that doesn't factor in the 14lbs at all, does it?
i'm sure i'm missing something. i kinda feel stupid writing this, lol. i wasn't able to find any answers myself, so i decided to check here.
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Macuser M
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Macuser M
What TH do you want to know?
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# Posted: 29 Aug 2007 21:51
Quoting: nickatbristol You should do 3 sets of each exercise for 8-12 reps. So for each exercise you need to find the weight which will allow you to complete 8 reps with maximum effort, never put the weight down until you have tried for one more rep and failed this is known as training to positive failiure, it is these last 1 or 2 reps that will force the muscle to grow hence the phrase no pain no gain. Now wait 2 mins and reduce the weight by approx 10% then do your second set again to total positive failiure. You should always lower the bar under control and not let it drop down as this will reduce the effectiveness of the exercise and increase the risk of injury.
Now immediately you complete the second set reduce the weight down by 50 percent and do your third set again 8-12 reps to total positive failiure but this time count 4 seconds as you lower the bar. Now wait 5 mins then move on to the next exercise/bodypart.
When you can do 12 reps with the weight increase the weight by 10% this should reduce your reps back down to 8.
Please help me out here because I am totally lost. When I lift weight, lets say, chest press - I start for example with 35 lbs on each side, then on my 2nd set I raise it up to 40 and so on. This contradict totally with what was said above. I always thought one is supposed to go up in weight not down please advise
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Matt A.
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Matt A.
Nothin to say, I'm 17 and losing fat/gaining muscle is easy with time. :)
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# Posted: 7 Sep 2007 02:41
Omg man, I bench and work my arms everyday, no wonder I haven;'t seen much improvement (I only have the weekends to rest) thanks for your tips, this will help me greatly!
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Minu ~
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N u t r i t i o n I g n i t i o n C u l t i v a t i o n E x e r t i o n
One can never be too N.I.C.E.
BELT NOTCHES for 2008:
- Mistressed the PULL-UP! - 2, 1.2km lake swims.
Video of proper Squat form:
http://www.traineo.com/11_5529_0.html
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# Posted: 7 Sep 2007 16:03
Quoting: Jessipoo I actually do my cardio right before weights cuz both workouts are not that intense so I figure while I'm at it.. why not
so I should do them on seperate days?? (I don't quite understand your explanation, why?)
If I may jump in here for ya, Jess, the way I understand it is, the basic reasoning behind doing your weight work before any cardio is because lifting, (and not the featherweight stuff, the stuff that makes you sometimes grunt it out), requires serious, quick fuel, which is drawn primarily from the blood, not from fat reserves. For maximum performance, you want that "tank" to be full when hitting the weights, not already depleted from doing cardio--and if your cardio is on the intense side, then all the more reason to do it after the weights.
If the lifting leaves you pooped, you can always do the cardio later in the day, or alternate cardio days and weight days.
Hope that helps.

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Minu ~
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N u t r i t i o n I g n i t i o n C u l t i v a t i o n E x e r t i o n
One can never be too N.I.C.E.
BELT NOTCHES for 2008:
- Mistressed the PULL-UP! - 2, 1.2km lake swims.
Video of proper Squat form:
http://www.traineo.com/11_5529_0.html
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# Posted: 7 Sep 2007 16:11
Quoting: Hugh_Jass One thing I would suggest is not to break up body parts into separate days but rather work your whole body every second day. Muscles take 2 days to recooperate. If you are working your bicep once a week it only grows for 2 days. If you work every muscle every second day then they are growing ALL week.
I used to do weights like this, Dan and got some pretty amazing results too--which was even more amazing as back then, (this was about 10 years ago), I knew practically ZIP about nutrition.
The only drawback was the amaaaaaaaaaaazing muscle-rebuilding aches I would get to enjoy ALL OVER my body, every 2nd day! But really, I kinda liked it, teeeheeee...

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Josh B
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# Posted: 16 Feb 2008 21:05
Quoting: macuser
Quoting: nickatbristol
You should do 3 sets of each exercise for 8-12 reps. So for each exercise you need to find the weight which will allow you to complete 8 reps with maximum effort, never put the weight down until you have tried for one more rep and failed this is known as training to positive failiure, it is these last 1 or 2 reps that will force the muscle to grow hence the phrase no pain no gain. Now wait 2 mins and reduce the weight by approx 10% then do your second set again to total positive failiure. You should always lower the bar under control and not let it drop down as this will reduce the effectiveness of the exercise and increase the risk of injury.
Now immediately you complete the second set reduce the weight down by 50 percent and do your third set again 8-12 reps to total positive failiure but this time count 4 seconds as you lower the bar. Now wait 5 mins then move on to the next exercise/bodypart.
When you can do 12 reps with the weight increase the weight by 10% this should reduce your reps back down to 8.
Please help me out here because I am totally lost. When I lift weight, lets say, chest press - I start for example with 35 lbs on each side, then on my 2nd set I raise it up to 40 and so on. This contradict totally with what was said above. I always thought one is supposed to go up in weight not down please advise
I second wondering about this. Anyone have any more details in what instances this is more beneficial, and why?
thanks
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Dave Nicholson
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Dave Nicholson
I'm basically trying to get in shape and be healthy...
diaryofthefatman.blogspot.com
I like participating in sports but I want to be more competitive. Also I'm with Kevin Spacey from American Beauty - good reason :)
I'm looking to lose about a hundred lbs in the course of a year, and basically to just consistently get better. And I love comments and messages, so keep 'em coming!
I talk about goal setting a lot, how about I actually set some?
Well it's time to revisit goals... I didn't do too well with my end of year plans, but learned some things and changed my plans up a bit as I went along. During the 5-7 weeks of the year, I was able to put on about 8-10lbs of muscle, and stay at the same actual weight. The plan is to start the Strong Lifts 5X5 program to supplement the Couch to 5K program, and that should last the next 8-12 weeks.
I'm updating goals as well. Lowering cholesterol remains a goal, and I'll find out about that at the end of August.
Been bouncing around a bit, but getting a little stricter again and will monitor that over the next 3-4 weeks. I feel poised to really lose some weight again, so I'm looking forward to the healthy eating and additional exercise.

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# Posted: 16 Feb 2008 21:52
If you're just starting out, don't worry about anything fancy - warm up to your work weight, and do your sets with that weight.
There are A TON of variations in weight training, and these are generally for more advanced people (say, at least a year, getting bored with progressive load). Just push yourself on every set.
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