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THE NEW ME The Master Posts: 2856 THE NEW ME HIGHEST WEIGHT 240 in 2000-2002 HIGHEST BODY FAT MEASURED-44% AT 170 CHALLENGE 1: SEPT 07-DEC 07 -LOSE 10 POUNDS-158-148- achieved new goal-lose another 10 by Dec 15 not achieved-Dec 15-weight 142.5 (total weight loss during challenge= 15.5 pounds) -RUN A MILE- achieved on-NOV 7 new goal-run 2 miles-surpassed new goal-run 2.5 b/w Nov 7 and Dec 15.-achieved -LOSE 5% BODY FAT-achieved CHALLENGE 2 DEC 15-MARCH 15 -LOWER BODY FAT by 5% ( not achieved fully but as of 1/08-need to reevaluate-add muscle instead) -RUN 5 MILES-Achieved on 1/11/07 new goal-6 miles by March 15 at 5.0 speed or 5 miles at 5.5(neither achieved and not goals anymore-may try for fun) -LOSE 10 POUNDS -142.5-132.5 (not achieved but very close- 132.6) 6 month progress -lost 25. 4 pounds -lost 9% body fat -ran 0-5 miles Challenge 3 March 15, 07-June 15 -goals -follow plan by nutritionist and trainer -main goal gain lean mass Daily goals- -follow meal plan and move every day Goal of beating personal best- run a marathon weekly goals -gain muscle to the best of my ability 3 month goals -see above-reestablish every 3 months 12 month goals -maintain all the above goals ultimate long term goal -be fit, healthy and confident with body	# Posted: 22 Apr 2008 19:33 just curious, when working out if you have a harder time than you usually do trying to get your heart rate (and maintaining it) into your target heart rate zone does that mean: -you werent properly warmed up? -you werent properly rested? -you arent working hard enough? any or all of the above or other ideas?
Rachael M The Master Posts: 2299 Rachael M I am a triathlete trying to lose some weight so I can improve my times. I love traineo and the very motivational people on here. Basic info: 5'9", 22 years old, mechanical engineer :)	# Posted: 22 Apr 2008 19:43 All I have to do is get to the next hill to send my HR sky high no matter how well rested or warm I am so I'm gonna say it has to do with working hard enough. Find a nice hill and jog up it.
Derek Schultz Fitness Guru Posts: 258 Derek Schultz I've always been bigger. Maybe not classified as being fat because I carry it pretty well. But, well, I'm fat. There's no fooling myself. In January, months of hard work paid off as my wife got pregnant with what will be our first child. I had been exercising a bit until that point, but I decided to ramp it up a notch and get my weight to where I can be healthy and be around a long time for my wife and kid. I've been known to drop 40-50 pounds in 5 months or so on a few occasions, only to slowly gain that weight back over a couple years. This time is different. I know everybody says that and usually that statement doesn't come to fruit, but I've got that incentive...becoming a daddy. Got a blog rolling- rokandroll.blogspot.com I post on it a few times a week. Mostly fitness stuff. I try to be somewhat humorous. Check it out if you're REALLY bored.	# Posted: 22 Apr 2008 19:45 Good question! I know a friend of a friend who worked for many hours on Sunday raking the yard and doing all of the spring cleaning stuff. Pretty hard stuff. Rumor has it this person also got a good sunburn out of the deal. Then the friend of a friend did some walking/jogging that night because it was nice out. This person took then took Monday off to rest the body. This morning he couldn't get the heartrate up to speed on the elliptical, doing the same speed and resistance as always, probably averaging 6-8 bpm less than normal.
Sher S Fitness Guru Posts: 522 Sher S In one word - I am an Unquenchable Optimistic!! Im a phd student and have been traineoing for the past 1 year! I am in love with HIIT, dark chocolate, green tea and falling in love with more through this site! Current goal- Simply workout 5 days a week.	# Posted: 22 Apr 2008 19:48 I think it would be coz youa arent working hard enough or the exercise has become too easy for you. Over time the heart muscles get more efficient/ stronger and you have to work harder to get your HR higher. When i run, my HR always stays in the 160-170 range whereas on my elliptical i have to work really hard for to get to that rate.
Minu ~ The Master Posts: 2592 Minu ~ N u t r i t i o n I g n i t i o n C u l t i v a t i o n E x e r t i o n One can never be too N.I.C.E. BELT NOTCHES for 2008: - Mistressed the PULL-UP! - 2, 1.2km lake swims. Video of proper Squat form: http://www.traineo.com/11_5529_0.html	# Posted: 22 Apr 2008 19:54 When in doubt, push the envelope. Quoting: shery_1983 When i run, my HR always stays in the 160-170 range whereas on my elliptical i have to work really hard for to get to that rate. Ditto here, which is why I always mix up the elliptical session with upper body moves like: max-speed speed bag simulations, sped-up tai chi moves, as-if-skipping arm moves at the sides, and even exaggerated air drumming. Max-tension arms on the handles for intervals is pretty challenging too.
Joe Weierke traineo Fanatic Posts: 111 Joe Weierke Started going to the gym 2/2008. Doing mostly cardio / elliptical. I am shooting for looking drastically different by August for my wife's family reunion. My ultimate goal is to be 180 by the end of December.	# Posted: 22 Apr 2008 19:55 I would say not working hard enough as well. Raise the resistance level and you should see a increase in the heart rate level as well.
THE NEW ME The Master Posts: 2856 THE NEW ME HIGHEST WEIGHT 240 in 2000-2002 HIGHEST BODY FAT MEASURED-44% AT 170 CHALLENGE 1: SEPT 07-DEC 07 -LOSE 10 POUNDS-158-148- achieved new goal-lose another 10 by Dec 15 not achieved-Dec 15-weight 142.5 (total weight loss during challenge= 15.5 pounds) -RUN A MILE- achieved on-NOV 7 new goal-run 2 miles-surpassed new goal-run 2.5 b/w Nov 7 and Dec 15.-achieved -LOSE 5% BODY FAT-achieved CHALLENGE 2 DEC 15-MARCH 15 -LOWER BODY FAT by 5% ( not achieved fully but as of 1/08-need to reevaluate-add muscle instead) -RUN 5 MILES-Achieved on 1/11/07 new goal-6 miles by March 15 at 5.0 speed or 5 miles at 5.5(neither achieved and not goals anymore-may try for fun) -LOSE 10 POUNDS -142.5-132.5 (not achieved but very close- 132.6) 6 month progress -lost 25. 4 pounds -lost 9% body fat -ran 0-5 miles Challenge 3 March 15, 07-June 15 -goals -follow plan by nutritionist and trainer -main goal gain lean mass Daily goals- -follow meal plan and move every day Goal of beating personal best- run a marathon weekly goals -gain muscle to the best of my ability 3 month goals -see above-reestablish every 3 months 12 month goals -maintain all the above goals ultimate long term goal -be fit, healthy and confident with body	# Posted: 22 Apr 2008 19:56 what a coincidence derek!!did he/she think they werent working hard enough? sher/rachael-i didnt think i wasnt working hard enough even though i put that as one of the options. the truth is this really has only happened to me 1 or 2xs and i felt i couldnt work harder. i couldnt go run up a hill or increase the tension because that would be too hard to do and i wasnt trying to make the exercise harder nor did i want it to be harder. it was the normal exercise that i did and i just noticed i had difficulty doing the regular routine and getting my heart rate into the zone i normally get it into.
Minu ~ The Master Posts: 2592 Minu ~ N u t r i t i o n I g n i t i o n C u l t i v a t i o n E x e r t i o n One can never be too N.I.C.E. BELT NOTCHES for 2008: - Mistressed the PULL-UP! - 2, 1.2km lake swims. Video of proper Squat form: http://www.traineo.com/11_5529_0.html	# Posted: 22 Apr 2008 19:58 I guess I read you wrong, Jenn. Have you in fact been sleeping bad lately? How's the water levels?
Derek Schultz Fitness Guru Posts: 258 Derek Schultz I've always been bigger. Maybe not classified as being fat because I carry it pretty well. But, well, I'm fat. There's no fooling myself. In January, months of hard work paid off as my wife got pregnant with what will be our first child. I had been exercising a bit until that point, but I decided to ramp it up a notch and get my weight to where I can be healthy and be around a long time for my wife and kid. I've been known to drop 40-50 pounds in 5 months or so on a few occasions, only to slowly gain that weight back over a couple years. This time is different. I know everybody says that and usually that statement doesn't come to fruit, but I've got that incentive...becoming a daddy. Got a blog rolling- rokandroll.blogspot.com I post on it a few times a week. Mostly fitness stuff. I try to be somewhat humorous. Check it out if you're REALLY bored.	# Posted: 22 Apr 2008 19:58 Quoting: shery_1983 arent working hard enough or the exercise has become too easy for you I've adjusted for better fitness over time. I'm going faster than ever to keep the heartrate up to where I think it needs to be (resistance is already maxed out). It was almost like suddenly a switch was turned on (or off) and I couldn't get my heartrate up near to what I was doing a couple days ago.
Dave Nicholson The Master Posts: 2094 Dave Nicholson I'm basically trying to get in shape and be healthy... diaryofthefatman.blogspot.com I like participating in sports but I want to be more competitive. Also I'm with Kevin Spacey from American Beauty - good reason :) I'm looking to lose about a hundred lbs in the course of a year, and basically to just consistently get better. And I love comments and messages, so keep 'em coming! I talk about goal setting a lot, how about I actually set some? Well it's time to revisit goals... I didn't do too well with my end of year plans, but learned some things and changed my plans up a bit as I went along. During the 5-7 weeks of the year, I was able to put on about 8-10lbs of muscle, and stay at the same actual weight. The plan is to start the Strong Lifts 5X5 program to supplement the Couch to 5K program, and that should last the next 8-12 weeks. I'm updating goals as well. Lowering cholesterol remains a goal, and I'll find out about that at the end of August. Been bouncing around a bit, but getting a little stricter again and will monitor that over the next 3-4 weeks. I feel poised to really lose some weight again, so I'm looking forward to the healthy eating and additional exercise.	# Posted: 22 Apr 2008 19:59 Its a measure of your fitness and the great progress you've made! It gets harder and harder to get your HR up because your body is more efficient at exercising. The only way to fix that - up the intensity Good luck and congrats on the new level of fitness!
Sher S Fitness Guru Posts: 522 Sher S In one word - I am an Unquenchable Optimistic!! Im a phd student and have been traineoing for the past 1 year! I am in love with HIIT, dark chocolate, green tea and falling in love with more through this site! Current goal- Simply workout 5 days a week.	# Posted: 22 Apr 2008 19:59 Minu, i remember reading about the boxing moves you wrote about once. When i used to do HIIT on the elliptical i would punch my hands up in the air and do all sorts of aerobics type movements with my hands....it certainly does shoot the HR up and maintains it!!
Minu ~ The Master Posts: 2592 Minu ~ N u t r i t i o n I g n i t i o n C u l t i v a t i o n E x e r t i o n One can never be too N.I.C.E. BELT NOTCHES for 2008: - Mistressed the PULL-UP! - 2, 1.2km lake swims. Video of proper Squat form: http://www.traineo.com/11_5529_0.html	# Posted: 22 Apr 2008 20:01 Try the speed bag sims, Derek, (arms up high, circles tight and done as fast as possible for as long as possible), they kick it for me no prob. Jen, may I ask what the exercise in question is? And in what zone are you working at, (100-135 bpm, 140-170, etc?)
Minu ~ The Master Posts: 2592 Minu ~ N u t r i t i o n I g n i t i o n C u l t i v a t i o n E x e r t i o n One can never be too N.I.C.E. BELT NOTCHES for 2008: - Mistressed the PULL-UP! - 2, 1.2km lake swims. Video of proper Squat form: http://www.traineo.com/11_5529_0.html	# Posted: 22 Apr 2008 20:02 - Edited by: Minu Quoting: shery_1983 Minu, i remember reading about the boxing moves you wrote about once. When i used to do HIIT on the elliptical i would punch my hands up in the air and do all sorts of aerobics type movements with my hands....it certainly does shoot the HR up and maintains it!! I've always been into the boxing moves. I reckon if I'd started young, 'I COULDA BIN A CONDENDAHHH!'
Derek Schultz Fitness Guru Posts: 258 Derek Schultz I've always been bigger. Maybe not classified as being fat because I carry it pretty well. But, well, I'm fat. There's no fooling myself. In January, months of hard work paid off as my wife got pregnant with what will be our first child. I had been exercising a bit until that point, but I decided to ramp it up a notch and get my weight to where I can be healthy and be around a long time for my wife and kid. I've been known to drop 40-50 pounds in 5 months or so on a few occasions, only to slowly gain that weight back over a couple years. This time is different. I know everybody says that and usually that statement doesn't come to fruit, but I've got that incentive...becoming a daddy. Got a blog rolling- rokandroll.blogspot.com I post on it a few times a week. Mostly fitness stuff. I try to be somewhat humorous. Check it out if you're REALLY bored.	# Posted: 22 Apr 2008 20:05 Quoting: jenngetfit what a coincidence derek!!did he/she think they werent working hard enough? He was working hard enough. My friend's friend knows his body.
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Derek Schultz Fitness Guru Posts: 258 Derek Schultz I've always been bigger. Maybe not classified as being fat because I carry it pretty well. But, well, I'm fat. There's no fooling myself. In January, months of hard work paid off as my wife got pregnant with what will be our first child. I had been exercising a bit until that point, but I decided to ramp it up a notch and get my weight to where I can be healthy and be around a long time for my wife and kid. I've been known to drop 40-50 pounds in 5 months or so on a few occasions, only to slowly gain that weight back over a couple years. This time is different. I know everybody says that and usually that statement doesn't come to fruit, but I've got that incentive...becoming a daddy. Got a blog rolling- rokandroll.blogspot.com I post on it a few times a week. Mostly fitness stuff. I try to be somewhat humorous. Check it out if you're REALLY bored.	# Posted: 22 Apr 2008 20:06 Quoting: Minu Try the speed bag sims, Derek, (arms up high, circles tight and done as fast as possible for as long as possible) On the elliptical? I'd fall off! Or worse, spill my beer!
Minu ~ The Master Posts: 2592 Minu ~ N u t r i t i o n I g n i t i o n C u l t i v a t i o n E x e r t i o n One can never be too N.I.C.E. BELT NOTCHES for 2008: - Mistressed the PULL-UP! - 2, 1.2km lake swims. Video of proper Squat form: http://www.traineo.com/11_5529_0.html	# Posted: 22 Apr 2008 20:23 Quoting: mrrok On the elliptical? I'd fall off! Or worse, spill my beer! Ohhh YOU!
THE NEW ME The Master Posts: 2856 THE NEW ME HIGHEST WEIGHT 240 in 2000-2002 HIGHEST BODY FAT MEASURED-44% AT 170 CHALLENGE 1: SEPT 07-DEC 07 -LOSE 10 POUNDS-158-148- achieved new goal-lose another 10 by Dec 15 not achieved-Dec 15-weight 142.5 (total weight loss during challenge= 15.5 pounds) -RUN A MILE- achieved on-NOV 7 new goal-run 2 miles-surpassed new goal-run 2.5 b/w Nov 7 and Dec 15.-achieved -LOSE 5% BODY FAT-achieved CHALLENGE 2 DEC 15-MARCH 15 -LOWER BODY FAT by 5% ( not achieved fully but as of 1/08-need to reevaluate-add muscle instead) -RUN 5 MILES-Achieved on 1/11/07 new goal-6 miles by March 15 at 5.0 speed or 5 miles at 5.5(neither achieved and not goals anymore-may try for fun) -LOSE 10 POUNDS -142.5-132.5 (not achieved but very close- 132.6) 6 month progress -lost 25. 4 pounds -lost 9% body fat -ran 0-5 miles Challenge 3 March 15, 07-June 15 -goals -follow plan by nutritionist and trainer -main goal gain lean mass Daily goals- -follow meal plan and move every day Goal of beating personal best- run a marathon weekly goals -gain muscle to the best of my ability 3 month goals -see above-reestablish every 3 months 12 month goals -maintain all the above goals ultimate long term goal -be fit, healthy and confident with body	# Posted: 22 Apr 2008 20:56 im not sure that im making myself clear. i was absolutely working hard enough and was working the way i normally do. to add more intensity would make it too difficult for me to do. i was not being lazy. if i added more intenisty i would not be able to keep up with the activity. minu-i dont know exactly what my heart rate was at the time( i was not in my zone-i was probably just below it), this happened awhile ago. i was doing the bike at the time, which i normally ride.
Derek Schultz Fitness Guru Posts: 258 Derek Schultz I've always been bigger. Maybe not classified as being fat because I carry it pretty well. But, well, I'm fat. There's no fooling myself. In January, months of hard work paid off as my wife got pregnant with what will be our first child. I had been exercising a bit until that point, but I decided to ramp it up a notch and get my weight to where I can be healthy and be around a long time for my wife and kid. I've been known to drop 40-50 pounds in 5 months or so on a few occasions, only to slowly gain that weight back over a couple years. This time is different. I know everybody says that and usually that statement doesn't come to fruit, but I've got that incentive...becoming a daddy. Got a blog rolling- rokandroll.blogspot.com I post on it a few times a week. Mostly fitness stuff. I try to be somewhat humorous. Check it out if you're REALLY bored.	# Posted: 22 Apr 2008 21:07 Quoting: jenngetfit was absolutely working hard enough and was working the way i normally do. to add more intensity would make it too difficult for me to do. i was not being lazy. Exactly. I tried to increase my speed, and still didn't get to my "operating level" of 150+ bpm. For how fast I was going on the machine, I thought something was going to break. Either me or the elliptical.
Rachael M The Master Posts: 2299 Rachael M I am a triathlete trying to lose some weight so I can improve my times. I love traineo and the very motivational people on here. Basic info: 5'9", 22 years old, mechanical engineer :)	# Posted: 22 Apr 2008 22:23 I don't mean that you are being lazy. Like somebody already said, when your body and heart get used to a specific exercise, it becomes more efficient. When I used to do the ellipticals a lot, I found that after a few months of doing ellipticals every day, I just was not getting a very good work out in any more. So I started doing 1 day of running then 2 days of running every week to keep me working hard and the lbs dropping. (I had a lot more success losing poundage that time than this one, but I don't think I was gaining as much muscle.)
Cindy N Fitness Guru Posts: 733 Cindy N Goals This Week: Watch the Penguins beat the Red Wings in the Stanley Cup Finals!!! Continue getting up early for boot camp Heavy Strength Training 1x/wk Drink at least 1000ml water 5 out of 7 days Avoid crummy foods at least 3 days Goals Last Week: Watch the Penguins beat the Flyers in the playoffs!!! - COMPLETE!!!!! Continue getting up early for boot camp - COMPLETE, almost didn't make it 5/23 though Do the 1 mile test run in under 10 min. - DONE IN 10:10, close! Heavy Strength Training 1x/wk - Not this week :( Drink at least 1000ml water a day - Only 4 out of 7 days, and still no excuse May Goals: Run whole Race for the Cure 5K - COMPLETE! Boot Camp for 4 weeks starting 5/12 Get out of the "obese" range on the BMI chart (185.5) Upcoming: Son's graduation in June (lots of family and friends visiting) 10K in September 2008	# Posted: 23 Apr 2008 00:11 I think I've experienced this too, Jenn, and I just chalk it up to one of those strange things that happen. There are different things that can affect heart rate. I figure some days things just line up in such a way that I am at my max effort, but my heart rate isn't.
Neesha D Fitness Guru Posts: 297 Neesha D I'm at student, working to get a Masters in Computer Science. I like to read, write, run, climb, and swim. Although I haven't climbed much recently. I'm currently training for a half marathon on Aug. 17th.	# Posted: 23 Apr 2008 00:16 Your heart rate doing an activity depends on a lot of things besides just the intensity of the activity. If you didn't get enough sleep or fluids, too much/little food, are stressed out, or any number of factors can affect your heart rate range each day. From what I've read, your max heart rate will change day to day based on a number of factors. Some days you're just so tired that doing half the intensity you normally do will shoot your heart rate up, while other days are particularly good and you can't seem to get it up as high as "normal." I have a polar F11 that calculates "own zones" based on a few simple steps. You can use preset ones each time, or have it calculate the new zone levels each time you exercise. They recommend recalculating it each time because of how easily your zones change day to day.
Sher S Fitness Guru Posts: 522 Sher S In one word - I am an Unquenchable Optimistic!! Im a phd student and have been traineoing for the past 1 year! I am in love with HIIT, dark chocolate, green tea and falling in love with more through this site! Current goal- Simply workout 5 days a week.	# Posted: 23 Apr 2008 00:16 True Cindy. Days when i havent slept well or had a stressful day/ dont feel like working out, my HR doesnt reach that high. Since it happened to you only a few times, i think you can ignore it. The important thing is that you are working out consistently and it has brought you towards your goals
THE NEW ME The Master Posts: 2856 THE NEW ME HIGHEST WEIGHT 240 in 2000-2002 HIGHEST BODY FAT MEASURED-44% AT 170 CHALLENGE 1: SEPT 07-DEC 07 -LOSE 10 POUNDS-158-148- achieved new goal-lose another 10 by Dec 15 not achieved-Dec 15-weight 142.5 (total weight loss during challenge= 15.5 pounds) -RUN A MILE- achieved on-NOV 7 new goal-run 2 miles-surpassed new goal-run 2.5 b/w Nov 7 and Dec 15.-achieved -LOSE 5% BODY FAT-achieved CHALLENGE 2 DEC 15-MARCH 15 -LOWER BODY FAT by 5% ( not achieved fully but as of 1/08-need to reevaluate-add muscle instead) -RUN 5 MILES-Achieved on 1/11/07 new goal-6 miles by March 15 at 5.0 speed or 5 miles at 5.5(neither achieved and not goals anymore-may try for fun) -LOSE 10 POUNDS -142.5-132.5 (not achieved but very close- 132.6) 6 month progress -lost 25. 4 pounds -lost 9% body fat -ran 0-5 miles Challenge 3 March 15, 07-June 15 -goals -follow plan by nutritionist and trainer -main goal gain lean mass Daily goals- -follow meal plan and move every day Goal of beating personal best- run a marathon weekly goals -gain muscle to the best of my ability 3 month goals -see above-reestablish every 3 months 12 month goals -maintain all the above goals ultimate long term goal -be fit, healthy and confident with body	# Posted: 23 Apr 2008 01:12 rachael-no, i didnt think you meant i was being lazy. i didnt know if i made myself clear that i couldnt increase the resistance to make it harder. i do try to mix things up. good reminder though, thanks. cindy-that makes sense; could have just been a fluke. neesha- i use a polar watch; maybe its time to recalculate my range. thanks sher and everyone else for their contributions.

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