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rj t
traineo Newbie Posts: 16
rj t
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# Posted: 8 Apr 2008 20:25
Right now I have a relatively typical work out regimen that focuses on 1 muscle group a day 4 days a week with about 30 minutes of cardio to finish it off. I’ve been doing this for a while now making some small changes here and there to keep it interesting but I think I’ve hit a plateau. I’ve been considering switching to a 4 day split or some sort of superset for the next couple of weeks. I was wondering if anyone had any advice on switching routines especially because I’m only about a year into “serious” weight training. Right now (like many of you) my long-term goal is muscle gain.
Current routine: 8-10 reps with as much weight as I can without sacrificing form followed by a 3 mile jog. I know that the cardio probably isn’t helping me in the gain area but for some reason I’m insecure about omitting that from my workout. Lastly my diet is pretty well structured as I try to eat several smaller meals throughout the day rather then overeating at any single meal. I’m still trying to grasp the carb/protein/fat concept so in the meantime I try to stick with the better choices (no soda, fast food etc…)
Anyway, any advice would be greatly appreciated. This is my first post so take it easy on me J
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Shawn W.
Fitness Guru Posts: 490
Shawn W.
Looking to add some muscle over the next few months. Trying to get in those calories and focusing on the compound lifts. We'll see how it all goes :)
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# Posted: 8 Apr 2008 20:40
I'd drop the cardio to 2-3 times a week max if your going to look at adding some muscle weight.
Calories play a big role. What you eat and how much will either give your body enough protein and calories to grow or hold you back. Some people are able to gain muscle and lose fat, but usually its not the case for long periods of times.
Since you've been weightlifting for over a year and stuck with the 8-10 reps, i'd say its time to 'shock' that system for about a month.
Look at lifting real heavy if you want with a max of 5 reps. A 5x5 program might be good. Incorporate some good lifts like Dead lifts, Olympic lifts and squats. Focus on hitting the whole body.
www.t-nation.com has alot of good sources for different programs. You can find some programs which might break your body out of the routine you've gotten into. After that you might then look at going back for a 10-12 rep program.
If your serious about muscle gain, find out if your getting enough calories, get your protein intake to 1g per lb each day.
@ 195lbs i'm doing 200g + of protein a day and eating 3800-4000 calories to see any real growth. Below 3500 I find I don't really put any muscle on.
Good luck and keep us informed!
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Splint Chesthair
Fitness Guru Posts: 471
Splint Chesthair
Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.)
http://splintchesthair.blogspot.com/
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# Posted: 8 Apr 2008 20:47
Best advice I can give is something I read recently:
If you're relatively new and haven't read it before, get a copy of Starting Strength.
If you're a moderate weightlifter and haven't read it before, get a copy of Starting Strength.
If you're a advanced weightlifter and haven't read it before, get a copy of Starting Strength.
If you've read the book before, read it again.
Starting Strength
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Dave Nicholson
The Master Posts: 2094


Dave Nicholson
I'm basically trying to get in shape and be healthy...
diaryofthefatman.blogspot.com
I like participating in sports but I want to be more competitive. Also I'm with Kevin Spacey from American Beauty - good reason :)
I'm looking to lose about a hundred lbs in the course of a year, and basically to just consistently get better. And I love comments and messages, so keep 'em coming!
I talk about goal setting a lot, how about I actually set some?
Well it's time to revisit goals... I didn't do too well with my end of year plans, but learned some things and changed my plans up a bit as I went along. During the 5-7 weeks of the year, I was able to put on about 8-10lbs of muscle, and stay at the same actual weight. The plan is to start the Strong Lifts 5X5 program to supplement the Couch to 5K program, and that should last the next 8-12 weeks.
I'm updating goals as well. Lowering cholesterol remains a goal, and I'll find out about that at the end of August.
Been bouncing around a bit, but getting a little stricter again and will monitor that over the next 3-4 weeks. I feel poised to really lose some weight again, so I'm looking forward to the healthy eating and additional exercise.

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# Posted: 8 Apr 2008 20:51
LOL, great read.
Also the Stronglifts 5x5 Beginner Program is a pretty common recommendation and for good reason.
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Splint Chesthair
Fitness Guru Posts: 471
Splint Chesthair
Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.)
http://splintchesthair.blogspot.com/
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# Posted: 8 Apr 2008 20:53 - Edited by: splint
Oh yeah, and every time you touch an EZ Curl bar you should do 100 pull-ups as penance.
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THE NEW ME
The Master Posts: 2856


THE NEW ME
HIGHEST WEIGHT 240 in 2000-2002 HIGHEST BODY FAT MEASURED-44% AT 170
CHALLENGE 1: SEPT 07-DEC 07 -LOSE 10 POUNDS-158-148- achieved new goal-lose another 10 by Dec 15 not achieved-Dec 15-weight 142.5 (total weight loss during challenge= 15.5 pounds) -RUN A MILE- achieved on-NOV 7 new goal-run 2 miles-surpassed new goal-run 2.5 b/w Nov 7 and Dec 15.-achieved -LOSE 5% BODY FAT-achieved
CHALLENGE 2 DEC 15-MARCH 15
-LOWER BODY FAT by 5% ( not achieved fully but as of 1/08-need to reevaluate-add muscle instead) -RUN 5 MILES-Achieved on 1/11/07 new goal-6 miles by March 15 at 5.0 speed or 5 miles at 5.5(neither achieved and not goals anymore-may try for fun) -LOSE 10 POUNDS -142.5-132.5 (not achieved but very close- 132.6)
6 month progress -lost 25. 4 pounds -lost 9% body fat -ran 0-5 miles
Challenge 3 March 15, 07-June 15 -goals -follow plan by nutritionist and trainer -main goal gain lean mass
Daily goals- -follow meal plan and move every day
Goal of beating personal best- run a marathon
weekly goals -gain muscle to the best of my ability
3 month goals -see above-reestablish every 3 months
12 month goals -maintain all the above goals
ultimate long term goal -be fit, healthy and confident with body

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# Posted: 8 Apr 2008 20:54
splint-is starting strength a good book for women as well?
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Splint Chesthair
Fitness Guru Posts: 471
Splint Chesthair
Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.)
http://splintchesthair.blogspot.com/
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# Posted: 8 Apr 2008 20:56
Quoting: jenngetfit splint-is starting strength a good book for women as well?
There's aren't any special penis-based lifts, if that's what you're asking.
If you're looking to build strength, Starting Strength is an excellent book for everyone.
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Dave Nicholson
The Master Posts: 2094


Dave Nicholson
I'm basically trying to get in shape and be healthy...
diaryofthefatman.blogspot.com
I like participating in sports but I want to be more competitive. Also I'm with Kevin Spacey from American Beauty - good reason :)
I'm looking to lose about a hundred lbs in the course of a year, and basically to just consistently get better. And I love comments and messages, so keep 'em coming!
I talk about goal setting a lot, how about I actually set some?
Well it's time to revisit goals... I didn't do too well with my end of year plans, but learned some things and changed my plans up a bit as I went along. During the 5-7 weeks of the year, I was able to put on about 8-10lbs of muscle, and stay at the same actual weight. The plan is to start the Strong Lifts 5X5 program to supplement the Couch to 5K program, and that should last the next 8-12 weeks.
I'm updating goals as well. Lowering cholesterol remains a goal, and I'll find out about that at the end of August.
Been bouncing around a bit, but getting a little stricter again and will monitor that over the next 3-4 weeks. I feel poised to really lose some weight again, so I'm looking forward to the healthy eating and additional exercise.

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# Posted: 8 Apr 2008 20:58
well there's that one, but the information and pictures are still worth checking out...
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Bourblaster V
Fitness Guru Posts: 336
Bourblaster V
Demystifying the non-mystery, one misguided soul at a time.
squat three times a week
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# Posted: 8 Apr 2008 21:12
Quoting: splint There's aren't any special penis-based lifts, if that's what you're asking.
You haven't met the right woman.
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Splint Chesthair
Fitness Guru Posts: 471
Splint Chesthair
Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.)
http://splintchesthair.blogspot.com/
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# Posted: 8 Apr 2008 21:14
Quoting: Bourblaster You haven't met the right woman.
I said "Special", I sometimes forget what's normal and routine for me, may indeed be special for some.
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rj t
traineo Newbie Posts: 16
rj t
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# Posted: 9 Apr 2008 17:01
Thanks guys your advice is much appreciated. Shawn, I think I’m going to try a 5x5 program in about 2 weeks or so. Also I’m going to up my protein intake by about 50g, and try my hardest to cut back on the cardio exercises. Again I really appreciate your posts.
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Dean Grimshawe
Fitness Guru Posts: 1177
Dean Grimshawe
I work as a Health and Fitness Coach in England. I am looking to network with dedicated athletes and grow my knowledge in this area. Check out what I do at www.warriorcoaching.co.uk
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# Posted: 9 Apr 2008 17:04 - Edited by: wayofthewarrior
Quoting: rjt I’ve been doing this for a while now
Do something different
No, seriously, there are so many ways to skin a cat but the best route depends on where you want to end up. I prefer to use periodization training when designing a routine which includes breaking my goals up into 3 month cycles. At the end of each cycle (which will have cycles within it anyway) I totally revise the direction I am going in and start a whole new regime.
e.g spend 3 months increasing strength with power training, followed by 3 months building muscle using my new found strength. Then I'll spend 3 months conditioning or whatever followed by a final endurance cycle then start again. Or something like that. Depending on your goals you can be flexible on what yo9u want your cycles to include. But remember some of the pros don't go straight for cutting and mass building all year round.
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Ryan F
traineo Fanatic Posts: 99
Ryan F
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# Posted: 9 Apr 2008 18:49
Quoting: splint If you're relatively new and haven't read it before, get a copy of Starting Strength.
It shipped from Amazon yesterday 
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Another Dave (formerly Release the Hounds)
Fitness Guru Posts: 249
Another Dave (formerly Release the Hounds)
I'm moving to Asia sometime around May 2008. I refuse to be the stereotypical fat American.
Veni, vidi, vici!
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# Posted: 9 Apr 2008 21:21
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Sheryl Azaroff
traineo Newbie Posts: 19
Sheryl Azaroff
I'm a personal trainer from New York. I love helping people get fit. I work out with a friend 4/5 times a week. Having that accountability makes all the difference in the world. Most of my time is spent on PhysicalFitnet.com - a website that I founded and am really proud of. So far its a cool exercise video library of 800 demonstrations done by other trainers also wanting to help spread the word (or video) on fitness info.
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# Posted: 22 Apr 2008 20:45
Variation is key to continued results. Here is an interesting video by a trainer that discusses it.
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And another video that discusses advanced techniques. Pyramids, negatives, etc - can get you past your plateau.
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Clifford Chinn
Fitness Guru Posts: 470
Clifford Chinn
Impossible is just a big word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in the world they've been given than to explore the power they haev to change it. Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion. Impossible is not a declaration. It's a dare. Impossible is potential. Impossible is temporary.
Impossible is NOTHING.
(I freakin LOVED that ad campaign)
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# Posted: 23 Apr 2008 00:43 - Edited by: TEAMCHINA
Quoting: splint There's aren't any special penis-based lifts, if that's what you're asking.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fJkcsOkRb0
I do at least one a day...
[Edit: I guess I should warn that it's NSFW: language]
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