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Something Dark Side
Fitness Guru Posts: 516
Something Dark Side
I've been interested in losing weight and gaining muscle here at traineo since late 2007. Its not until mid 2008 that i've actually started my training routine 5 days a week. Trying to get to under 19% body fat.
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# Posted: 18 Jul 2008 04:37
The reason why deep fried chips are bad for you is because it's cooked in fat, right?
But nowadays theres alternative fats like canoloa oil. Isn't that better for you?
I was just wondering because even though i'm trying to eat healthy, theres often nothing in the house that the parents buy which are really healthy and can have as a main dish. (Such as chicken breats etc, its mainly veggies and such).
What I just want to know is, is it ok then to have deep fried chips a few times a week if its cooked in canoloa oil, (and when you buy them frozen the comany that makes them says it was cooked in that oil).
If its not healthy, can someone please elobrate.
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Chris Johnston
traineo Newbie Posts: 9
Chris Johnston
I am a software developer for ThoughtWorks. I am also a consultant and on the road most weeks out of the year.
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# Posted: 18 Jul 2008 05:28
Not healthy - there is actually very little nutritional stuff in potatoes and even less if you deep fry them. Potatoes are mainly just starch with very little protein, fiber, or good carbs. For a main dish, stick with meat, veggies or whole grains like brown rice.
I know it's a drag. If you do want to eat potatoes, try baking them and then only eating half. Of course, that is without any butter or sour cream.
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Rob M.
Fitness Guru Posts: 442
Rob M.
SW: 268 (9/08/08) GW: 185 (4/08/09)
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# Posted: 18 Jul 2008 05:41
I say eat it! Haha, it has got to be better than a snickers bar.
If it grows it's good to go....
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Emily Outland
traineo Fanatic Posts: 93
Emily Outland
I am a university student, mid 30's, and mom to a 5 year old boy. I want to maintain my weight below 133. I've been sick for a while and gained weight, now its time to lose again.
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# Posted: 18 Jul 2008 06:19
Read the nutritional info on the bag... how many chips is a serving (9-11), and is the amount of calories (150) going to fill you up? I bet there is something in the house better than chips to eat. Oatmeal? toast? glass of milk? Deep fried chips are bad for you because they have a huge amount of fat, very little nutrition, and lots of calories, that doesn't change due to a different type of oil.
Personally If I started on a bag of chips I'd eat half the bag, not worry bout calories or health, and wonder why I felt bad the next day. Glad I got over that.
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Something Dark Side
Fitness Guru Posts: 516
Something Dark Side
I've been interested in losing weight and gaining muscle here at traineo since late 2007. Its not until mid 2008 that i've actually started my training routine 5 days a week. Trying to get to under 19% body fat.
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# Posted: 18 Jul 2008 07:14
This is chips that you deep fry btw, not potato chips as in a bag of chips that you sit there and eat in front of the TV.
So as in I get a big pack of frozen potato chips and throw some in the deep fryer.
I dont see why it's so bad for you since it's cooked in a healthy fat?
I will need to look how many calories next time.
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Hel T
traineo Newbie Posts: 2
Hel T
I would love a motivator, if you could be mine that would be great.
I'm a grad student, finding my weight has crept up recently, not helped by busy schedule and abundance of unhealthy food choices on campus. Also being tempted (and generally unable to resist) buying junk food when grocery shopping.
I know that we're supposed to lose weight for health's sake, but to me the biggest issue is self-esteem and being single.
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# Posted: 18 Jul 2008 09:07
It doesn't matter if it's cooked in so called "healthy" fat. at the end of the day, fat is fat. the "healthy-ness" has to do with whether it's the type that clogs up your arteries or cleans up what's built up in your arteries.
if you can't give up the chips completely (would no doubt be hard) try cutting it down to once a week as a special treat rather than a few times a week.
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Dean Grimshawe
Fitness Guru Posts: 1177
Dean Grimshawe
I work as a Health and Fitness Coach in England. I am looking to network with dedicated athletes and grow my knowledge in this area. Check out what I do at www.warriorcoaching.co.uk
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# Posted: 18 Jul 2008 11:44
Two of the most dangerous things for our health is sugar and cooked fats. I'm guilty of eating both from time to time so I'm certainly not claiming to the almighty one, however if you could remove 2 things and nothing else I would suggest those.
Fat mutates when cooked, and can potentially become a carcinogen through heat. It doesn't matter how healthy the oil is in the bottle, after it has been fried the nutritional value can be very different. Same with sources like olive oil and everything.
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Peter Karsai
traineo Newbie Posts: 7
Peter Karsai
Aiming to get a bit healthier. Started in November 2007 with 92 kg, reached first goal of 80kg on May 28th, 2008. Ultimate goal is a sustainable 74-75kg or 10-14% body fat.
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# Posted: 18 Jul 2008 12:03
If you can't resist fried potato (I surely can't  , try this recipe: cut the potatoes into halves or 4 pieces, mix them in a bowl with olive oil (about 1 tbsp for 2 pounds of potato) and put them into an oven preheated to 450F/230C. Preparation: 5 minutes. Cooking time: 40 minutes. Calories: somewhat less than classic deep fried chips (I guess). Taste: priceless.
And don't forget to spend 2x of the usual time in the gym the next day 
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Diane S.
traineo Fanatic Posts: 73
Diane S.
I started on a serious weight loss program in September of 2006. My starting weight was 242 pounds. I'm 5' 5" tall. My current weight is 180 pounds. I was determined to do it on my own - no paid programs, pills, etc. My goal is to be 165. As of 12/1/07 - I've met my goal of 165!. Now for 2008 I'm going to focus on maintaining. Any additional lost pounds will be a bonus.
New Year and I've decided to set a new goal. I'm striving for 145 pounds. 1/30/08 - down 5 pounds....
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# Posted: 18 Jul 2008 14:21
It sounds to me you know the answer to your own question but are trying to rationalize eating something that isn't so good for you. I'd give your parents a list of foods to buy for you when they go to the store (this isn't the first time you have mentioned living at home and your lack of food choices). You have the knowledge of what you should and shouldn't eat. If you have to eat fried potatoes then eat a small portion - definately don't make it your main meal.
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Rachael M
The Master Posts: 2299
Rachael M
I am a triathlete trying to lose some weight so I can improve my times. I love traineo and the very motivational people on here.
Basic info: 5'9", 22 years old, mechanical engineer :)
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# Posted: 18 Jul 2008 14:26
Quoting: wayofthewarrior Fat mutates when cooked
Is this true for all oil? What about suate-ing (oh dear spelling?) veggies in extra virgin olive oil and other oils?
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Neesha D
Fitness Guru Posts: 297
Neesha D
I'm at student, working to get a Masters in Computer Science. I like to read, write, run, climb, and swim. Although I haven't climbed much recently. I'm currently training for a half marathon on Aug. 17th.
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# Posted: 18 Jul 2008 14:55
At different temperatures, fats start to mutate. However, this temperature is not the same.
For example, olive oil has a very low burning point while canola oil's is high. That's why you would deep fry in canola but not olive oil. Depending on how hot something has to be to cook with it, it's sometimes recommended not to use olive oil, or to mix it with canola to raise the burning point.
At the end of the day a small amount of fat is needed in every diet, so don't remove it completely. For cooking with oil, the best thing to do is use a non-stick pan so that you can use as little oil as necessary. If your oil ever starts smoking, get rid of it, and start with a new batch. At this point you should consider if you're using the 'right' kind of oil for the job.
Back too the topic of fries, the difference using canola oil is the amount of saturated/trans fat in the fries. However, at the end of the day, you're still eating a deep fried food which is never healthy. A treat? Sure, why not. But it shouldn't be a daily item. There are much better ways to cook and eat potatoes.
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